NewDayRocks

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[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

I'm personally glad we are stepping back to a place of rational discussion. And to preface, i don't mean for any criticism directed at you to be a personal attack but rather challenging the opinion you are holding.

To start off, yes I'll agree that our society is designed and in service of the patriarchy. I wouldn't agree to a blanket destruction of said system simply because you cannot guarantee any system that comes after it will be "better". It's easier (not that it is easy) and more pragmatic to change the parts we don't like incrementally.

To that end, one of the ways to make OF modelling less destructive is to reprogram society to not shame women's sexuality and to make it so the choice of OF modeling is not so consequential. This would be preferably than to remove a woman's agency. Funny enough this would upend the patriarchy more than discourging women from expressing their sexuality. And please please note I am not suggesting you mean to literally take away women's choice, nor am I suggesting teens be allowed to do this.

As for the choice itself, I think there are 2 other points.

  1. it seems the study may be conflating teens saying they feel content creation is a viable future career to them saying they want to be OF models. In general content creators has been a top teen choice for a while now.

  2. You should give the girls more credit as they seem to understand what OF modeling means. The entire article talks about how surprising it is that the teens understood in detail the aspects of OF. Here is an exerpt

Girls in particular recognized the tension between agency and coercion. Some said it was a personal choice, while others pointed out that financial need often makes the decision feel less than voluntary. A few even likened it to prostitution, questioning whether anyone truly chooses to sell intimate content if they are struggling economically. This tension echoed broader concerns in the literature about how the language of empowerment can mask deeper power imbalances.

Teens acknowledging that OF modeling is a viable career option does not necessarily mean they want to do it themselves.

Let me address one now point

Do you believe there would be more or less OF models if everyone's basic needs were met?

This question suggests that OF models are being coerced or that it's paying enough to cover basic needs.

Well i don't believe you have the data on number of OF models being coerced into doing it and we do know and agree that 99% plus of OF models do not make much money, so it can't be covering basic needs.

So from that, if we lived in a utopia with UBI and everyone could choose what they want to do, I don't know for sure there would be a decrease in OF modeling. It would be the same as asking if I feel there would be a decrease in YouTube or twitch creators. There are a lot of content creators out there because there is a low barrier of entry. I imagine there will always be people wanting to try and eventually growing out of it. It's not about basic needs. It's a lottery ticket to economic mobility.

[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (6 children)

some of what you say may be true but it's completely irrelevant to the number of OF models vs teachers.

some of what you are saying is neither true nor exists outside of your disney tinted view of the world.

Should a degree be less appealing to individuals on mass than showing your body online?

People who choose to show their body on onlyfans has no bearing on the appeal of a degree. Not only is your opinion prudish and outdated in our sex positive world, you are attempting to take away their agency through shame.

You have shown no proof that the same people aren't interested in pursuing a degree or don't have a degree. It's not an either or.

There are a myriad of reasons for the teaching shortage and general state of education today. Wealth distribution should be better and the US needs to vastly improve their social safety nets.

None of that has to do with OnlyFans. Hell even if you magically fixed just about every one of those issues there would probably still be more OF models than teachers. And I'm sure you'd still find more ways to shout that society is dead.

A Degree should be valuable again. Not because it qualifies you for a job but it shows you put in work to learn something greater than yourself.

Btw, a degree is less valuable now because there are more of them. That's a supply and demand problem.

A degree is only partially about "learning something greater than yourself". That's some romanticized version from books or movies or maybe for affluent white folks. No parents are putting their children in tens/hundreds of thousands in debt for the pursuit of greater learning.

It has always been about the return on investment from the degree in the way of better opportunities, with a splash of greater learning and finding yourself as an adult.

Anyway point being no need to blame OF for your cynical views of society.

[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

I am aware. But it is not the norm. The point being is that OPs conclusion and logic train is deeply flawed. The numbers do not "prove" the downfall of society but rather simply that one "job" has a barrier to entry and the other does not.

[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Do OF models need a degree to start modeling?

[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Ok. Thanks for clarifying.

Although I am pretty sure AI is already used in the medical field for research and diagnosis. This "AI everywhere" trend you are seeing is the result of everyone trying to stick and use AI in every which way.

The thing about the AI boom is that lots of money is being invested into all fields. A bubble pop would result in investment money drying up everywhere, not make access to AI more affordable as you are suggesting.

[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

You and OP are misunderstanding what is meant by good and cheap.

It's not cheap from a resource perspective like you say. However that is irrelevant for the end user. It's "cheap" already because it is either free or costs considerably less for the user than the cost of the resources used. OpenAI or Meta or Twitter are paying the cost. You do not need to pay for a monthly subscription to use AI.

So the quality of the content created is not limited by cost.

If the AI bubble popped, this won't improve AI quality.

[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

AI is good and cheap now because businesses are funding it at a loss, so not sure what you mean here.

The problem is that it's cheap, so that anyone can make whatever they want and most people make low quality slop, hence why it's not "good" in your eyes.

Making a cheap or efficient AI doesn't help the end user in any way.

[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

8 weeks. Haha man that's like a pipe dream.

I think PTO works kind of the same in most places? My point is you can't really force an employee to take PTO and if they ignore their PTO policy that should be on them.

If a business closes down for Xmas new years, then you're but really taking PTO right? Workplace is closed. If you force PTO to be taken and most of your staff dragged their feet or didn't read their email, then essentially you're unable to operate for the last month of every year

[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 month ago

They have a responsibility to let you know, yes. And they have to actually let you take it. Beyond that should be personal responsibility.

Here are my expectations and how I normally experience pto policy at work.

  • HR has in writing company PTO policy. When and how to apply, how many per year, rollover policy.
  • HR provides friendly reminders in email to use it or lose it and the deadline is coming up.
  • HR provides a decent software system that tracks your PTO balance and history and is easy enough to use to request time off
  • HR reminds managers to approve PTO unless there is some issue in which case HR should help handle

If a company does the above then the employee has no one to blame if their days are lost.

[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Telling you to use it or lose it is essentially forcing you.

[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Big companies are subject to constant audits. You, too, can check their balance sheets that are released and scrutinize the numbers.

While you may personally dislike MS products, most of the world's businesses and governments run on them. That's licensing money every month without fail. They can literally charge whatever they want because companies with staff want Office and Windows Server backend.

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