[-] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago

I enjoy the exploration of Ferengi society under Grand Nagus Rom, and visiting some of Ferenginar's hot spots. I also enjoy seeing Rom and Leeta again. I love the subversion of Rom's doofiness, and how well Leeta adapted to Ferengi society. First Clerk, indeed. Freeman's frustration was my frustration, but it had a satisfying ending.

I didn't enjoy the lower deck gang's shenanigans as much. There were fun moments, but it felt like a drag on the characters. Mariner's fighting just to be fighting. She has grown a lot over the past seasons. Her undefined angry outburst in this episode seemed pointless. There's nothing keeping JG Lieutenant Mariner from her Ensign Mariner renegade behavior and schemes. Boimler has completely backslid into the previously uncertain, twitchy, insecure Boimler. There's no sign of "Crisis Point 2: Paradoxus'" (s3e8) "I want to be a captain" Tendi.

Rutherford and Tendi's discomfort pretending to be a couple made me uncomfortable. They've clearly been sweet on each other for a while. I could have done without forcing them into this pretend couple scenario, and let their relationship develop at its previous pace. I think Mariner and Boimler being the pretend couple had the potential to be hilarious. And, what the heck. No T'Lyn? Much disappointment.

I think Ransom is the standout in this episode.

The destroyed (maybe? maybe not?) ship of the week is a Ferenghi one. There was the tiniest hint, that one of the crew had been in contact with who or whatever is on that flying ship of destruction. With only 4 episodes left, I hope that ship has a huge payoff after being teased for so long.

I still love Lower Decks. This episode is a mixed bag for me.

[-] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago

I was hoping the little ship of doom is using unfamiliar tech to transport the people on the destroyed ships somewhere. Mainly because of Ma’ah and the Che’Ta’, and now the Orions. But, I'm leaning more towards destruction, than transporting. On the plus side, I have an astonishingly consistent track record of being wrong when guessing story points. Fingers crossed that my streak continues.

[-] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 18 points 1 year ago

Lower Decks continues to shine. I enjoy finally being shown aspects Orion culture, beyond being considered, " ... delinquents, pirates, slave traders." (DSC s1e15, although the same perception about Orions is held throughout Star Trek). The expansion of Tendi's background is great. I'm hoping for more on Orion in Star Trek's future. Poor Mariner, lol.

Getting to see Boimler and Rutherford settle in as roommates made for a nice B story. That got me wondering again about Mariner and Tendi's new quarters since their promotions. And, T'Lyn's.

The mysterious ship of destruction is getting old for me. When only ten, twenty-five minutes each, episodes are considered a season, there's little time to dilly-dally around with story telling. I'm just hoping this tease doesn't continue to be unexplained until another season.

To bad there wasn't time in "wej Duj" (LD s2e9) for an Orion Lower Decks segment. Now, I'm just waiting for an appropriate situation to say, " ... that makes you more of an Orion plagiarist."

[-] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 14 points 1 year ago

I'm hoping Very Short Treks started with their weakest showing. Who okayed this? I'm imagining someone who when asked what their favorite part of Star Trek is, responds, "the lightsabers and the Wookies." How else would the not at all representative of Star Trek whinge, "omg, I can't say anything without offending someone!," get put on repeat for nearly the entirety of the short. Except by someone who is clueless about Star Trek. And then ending with the Captain getting his imaginary girlfriend wish fulfilled. What the hell did I just write. What the hell did I just watch.

[-] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago

Definitely a t-shirt ready quote.

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There are inspiring, epic quotes in Star Trek. Words that stir the soul, shining a light on paths to a brighter now and a better future. But, what about those bits of dialog that don't have a stirring message, that you enjoy just because you enjoy them?

One of my favorites, from DSC season 3, Episode 1:

"I don't know. But it was temperature-sensitive and really valuable, so it's probably ice cream."

Burnham is captured and being questioned at the Merchantile. After being spritzed with a dose of space truth serum, Burnham's captors question her about stolen cargo. When asked by her captors what the cargo is, a very drugged up Burnham says the above with serious sincerity. I love the entirety of Burnham's chattering and behavior while she is under the influence of the space truth serum. That particular line always makes me smile, though.

Do you have a favored, not particularly inspiring, you just like it, Star Trek quote?

[-] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 35 points 1 year ago

I get what they were going for with the song, but it's a swing and a miss for me. I think the opening credits montage fits perfectly with the show, but not the song. When I watch ENT, the only time I don't mute the sound during the opening credits is for "In a Mirror, Darkly, Parts 1 and 2."

" ... another 'space theme for nerds,' so to speak ... "

Not so to speak. Exactly that. Give me the orchestral story telling. Give me that epic space theme.

[-] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 34 points 1 year ago

There were Star Trek fans at the time screaming from the rooftops about how TNG would ruin Star Trek. Before TNG even aired. But, there were also Star Trek fans who, while disappointed to not have the TOS crew back, were curious about what TNG was going to bring to the table. And, really happy to have a Star Trek series again. But, "Curious Trekkies Wait to See What's What with TNG" wasn't going to sell as many papers and stir up as much drama.

[-] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago

TOS has such episodes.

Yonadans in "For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky" s3e8.

To a lesser extent the people on Beta III in "The Return of the Archons" s1e21. They don't know how to work the technology, but they fear more than worship Landru.

Maybe the people on Gamma Trianguli VI in "The Apple" s2e5, although I don't remember whether or not they were descendants who lost knowledge of technology and just started worshiping Vaal.

[-] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago

I like Chris Pine's Kirk, but I can imagine Mr. Olyphant as Kirk in the Kelvin films and doing a great job at it. I get that the Kelvin films Kirk was set when he was closer to Mr. Pine's age. Still, I can't help but wonder what a Timothy Olyphant Kirk might have been like.

[-] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago

What a great first peek. I love seeing the Doctor. I'm happy to see this clip's release, but I'm staying with cautiously optimistic about the where and when of Prodigy's future home and seasons, and the availability for viewing of season 2. Leaning towards optimistic because someone had to give permission to release the clip. Paramount+ maybe? Until Prodigy has a new home, I'm guessing that Paramount+ owns the rights to Prodigy.

I don't doubt that there are parties interested in carrying the show. They would gain a show with a preexisting, supportive fan base and become a part of the Star Trek realm.

All in all, an impressive response by Star Trek fans to Prodigy and the creative team's poor treatment by Paramount+. Go team Star Trek fans!

[-] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago

Kudos on not getting stabby! Self-restraint is a good life skill.

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I worked hard at imitating the Leonard Nimoy Spock's raised eyebrow for quite a while. I don't regret the time spent practicing that in front of a mirror. I never mastered a fully raised eyebrow, but I can do a slight eyebrow raise.

Whenever someone is being greedy or acting a fool, I say, "hoo-man," in a bad Ferengi accent.

Jean-Luc Picard's "make it so" is a go to phrase for me.

My first sip of coffee for the day is always my Janeway moment.

When someone says something far fetched, I say "really." I think I'm channeling Benjamin Sisko. No one else sees it that way.

I say "p'takh" a bit too often. Not to anyone who understands Klingon. Not yet, anyway.

Any Star Trek mannerism or phrase you've incorporated into your life?

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I don't keep ongoing pay subscriptions to streaming services. Not a judgment of those who do; just my personal preference. I've done one month of Disney+ at a deep discount (to see season one of The Mandalorian) and two months of Paramount+, both times in the past. With Lower Decks' upcoming 4th season and SNW's "Those Old Scientists," I've been thinking about subbing to Paramount+ again. However, with the WGA/SAG-AFTRA strike, I've been wondering if not subscribing to Paramount+ would be in support of the strike.

From what I've found, the WGA and SAG-AFTRA are not currently calling for not subscribing to, or cancelling subscriptions to, streaming services.

Actor John Carroll Lynch on Twitter on July 18, 2023, quote of part of his video (he had previously called for cancelling streaming service subs):

https://twitter.com/MrJCLynch/status/1681324518806278144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

"I still think it's a good idea, but I've been informed by the union that they do not require that and they don't want that. I don't know why — something to do with the negotiations that I don't agree with, but I do follow the union recommendations, because that's what this is all about."

On Tumblr, author Neil Gaiman replied to a question about cancelling streaming service subscriptions to support the strike. July 12, 2023:

"The WGA has not called for anyone to boycott any of the streamers or to stop their streaming services yet. It's not "crossing the picket line" to watch something on a network that we are striking against. ("Crossing a picket line" is a very real, specific thing with a real meaning.)

I've seen it being discussed, but until the WGA calls for it, I don't suggest doing it."

https://www.tumblr.com/neil-gaiman/722696522150641664/hi-mr-gaiman-i-always-thought-if-i-were-to?source=share

Mr. Gaiman's Tumblr response also has a link to a June, 2023 L. A. Times column, "Column: Is it time to boycott Netflix? How streaming consumers could shape the strike" which I'm posting here because sometimes links to online pages are ephemeral.

So, okay Paramount+. You'll soon be getting some quatloos from me.

[-] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago

When I first saw this episode of TNG, I thought that such a language was impossible. Without even thinking about how often I hear and use phrases that likely make zero sense to someone who doesn't know the same context as myself. Like dealing with someone who lies all too often, "they are the boy who cried wolf" gets used. Meaning, one of these days they are going to tell the truth but no one will believe them. Or saying, "we need to touch base" to someone who isn't familiar with baseball. Sometimes I understand the meaning of a phrase, like "the proof is in the pudding," without knowing what that phrase originally meant. I still wonder what pudding? every time I hear it. So, yes. I can believe the Tamarian language. Because context is important.

I don't think the Tamarian language as a whole is represented in the episode. I can't imagine "Temba, his arms wide"-ing a way to warp capabilities. I think of the Tamarian language shown as a universal shorthand for the Tamarians. Like their society has different languages, but the Tamarian we hear is the common language. That Tamarians specializing in a field of study have their own words and phrases, much like on Earth of today. For example, if I listen to a lecture on biochemistry, I wouldn't understand most of it because I don't speak (understand) biochemistry. I have no context.

I think the Tamarian language is fascinating, and possible.

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Star Trek's level of medical care is far more advanced than today's. As Beckett says in LD, "Doc will wave a light over it." Yet, in Star Trek people aren't shown doing hobbies and pastimes that are much different from what's done now. Still, I wonder about differences in a society where people know they won't be laid up for months for doing or trying something that some folks of today might look at and say, "nope, too dangerous." Injuries will still hurt, there's a big difference between say, a broken leg taking months to heal and possibly multiple surgeries, and Star Trek's healing of a broken leg in a matter of hours.

I'm trying to think of what I'd do differently if I had access to Star Trek level medical care. There are things I want to try, but I look at sideways because of the possible injuries. It's mild, but one thing I think I'd try again is skating. I injured my knee roller skating at a rink years ago, and that knee is still a problem. That injury left me skittish of skating. If I knew an injury from skating (within reason) could be an easy fix, I would have given it another go.

Is there a pastime you'd be more willing to try, or try again, if Star Trek level medical care was available?

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My question involves a huge spoiler for DSC season 2. Please stop reading if you haven't seen DSC season 2.

spoilerMicheal Burnham said that Klingons killed her parents. Her father was killed immediately, and her mother's death took longer. Yet, in "Perpetual Infinity" (DSC s2e11), Gabrielle Burnham's description of that moment is that she used the Red Angel suit to immediately escape from the Klingons, intending to return before the attack to get her family to safety. I've tried to reconcile the differences. I think it's one of two things.

My head cannon: Micheal was a child suffering through a terrifying event, the attack by the Klingons. Her memory is impacted by time and trauma. I have doubts about the part where the Klingons sat down and ate the Burnham's food, too. Another clouding over by young Micheal's mind, reinforcing the horror of the moment for her. I'm inclined to think that those Klingons would be more about, "Oh, crap. Now we have to tell our bosses that we didn't get the time crystal." And less about chowing down.

In reality: It was too costly to redo the prior scene where Micheal describes the Klingons as taking longer to kill her mother, and have Micheal tone down the description of her mother's death. So the discrepancy between Micheal's memory of the attack, and Gabrielle's description of what happened to her in that attack, is just glossed over.

How do you reconcile the difference between Micheal's memory and Gabrielle's description of that moment?

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From Wikipedia, "A practical effect is a special effect produced physically, without computer-generated imagery or other post-production techniques."

Some of my favorite practical effect species are from TOS. There's the Horta from TOS "The Devil in the Dark" s1e25. I was about 9 years old when I first saw the Horta episode. Old enough to know it wasn't real, but young enough to be utterly fascinated by something that looked like an angry chunk of hot lava making its way around on the ground.

TOS's the Salt Vampire's look scared little kid me. Truth be told, the way it looks still gives me the creeps.

The Gorn (TOS "Arena" s1e18) didn't scare me, but I thought it was intimidating. Sure, it looks like somebody in a lizard man suit. But, that Gorn had a knife! And, was trying to kill Kirk! Bonus points for the Gorn's sparkly, stylish armor.

I think tribbles are just adorable.

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Comet TV is showing the first four Star Trek films, and "The Captains Close Up" this weekend.

https://comettv.com/cometfest/

Comet TV is an American digital broadcast television network. I get it over the air in my area. The channel can also be viewed online at the Comet TV web site.

Memory Alpha description of The Captains Close Up.

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I love how it looks. I’ve been trying to figured out what the background is, though.

Me: I can’t place that background.

My brain: It’s Montana.

Me: What?

My brain: What?

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