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[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago

Just delaying the inevitable given netflix kills shows after the 2nd season

[-] koreth@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don’t think Netflix actually cancels shows after two seasons any more often than other networks do.

Somehow people got it into their heads that Netflix is far more cancel-happy than its competitors, but if you look at the numbers, traditional TV networks have had like a 50% cancellation rate for decades.

Even TOS was cancelled after two seasons!

If Netflix is more prone to cancelling shows at all, which I’m not convinced is even true, it can’t be by an enormous margin.

[-] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 14 points 11 months ago

Actually there’s both metric evidence and statements by senior Netflix executives that a show has to do well in the first few weeks to be renewed.

They’re also very committed to their drop it all at once, or at most in 2 parts per season.

So it creates an environment where shows are rarely renewed unless they are top of the streaming charts.

They may have a different decision criteria for kid and family shows though.

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 8 points 11 months ago

There was an article a few weeks ago about how Netflix only has about a 15% cancellation rate. Unfortunately there was no deep dive into the data, so the figures are suspect. A few factors that weren't considered:

  • A very significant percentage of Netflix programming is reality TV and cheap junk. This doesn't get cancelled because well, it's cheap.
  • Many series don't get cancelled, they just aren't renewed. If Netflix tells the producers this is the last season, they're gonna rush the storyline to some kinda ending regardless of whether it was originally supposed to stretch several more seasons.
[-] Disgustoid@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago

Correct me if I'm wrong but if anyone kills the show, wouldn't it be Paramount? Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service.

I know people have their issues with Netflix but I'm just relieved it's not Peacock or some other service no one cares about.

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago

Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service.

Just as a TV network "cancels" a series by deciding not to order/air it, Netflix could do the same. Theoretically.

[-] Bel_Shamharoth@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But it seems clear at this point that Paramount believes that it'll be able to make a return on its investment, so it's just a matter of where the show eventually lands, not if the new season gets created.

Unless they do like WB did for Batgirl, and shitcan the entire thing permanently after production is complete, for a tax write-off.

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago

To be clear, I was being completely hypothetical. It makes no sense for Netflix to cancel something they literally just bought.

[-] nocturne213@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Sadly they gave Manifest a 3rd and 4th season.

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[-] ech@lemm.ee 39 points 11 months ago

So you're saying it's already cancelled again.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

new record incoming, removed from the service before even being added.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 11 months ago

i like prodigy but i hate netflix :(

[-] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 19 points 11 months ago
[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago

hello guybrush threepwood you sure are mighty

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

How appropriate. You fight like a cow!

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[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 4 points 11 months ago

At least you'll be able to find it on the high seas now, rather than it rotting on some hard drive in the back of a cupboard.

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[-] GoodAaron@startrek.website 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hi everyone! Netflix by far is the best home for Prodigy in the current streaming landscape.

They have the largest media share and Star Trek has historically done exceptionally well on their service — this opens the door for more seasons of our show.

Animated shows like “The Dragon Prince” have run up to seven seasons on Netflix.

“Longmire” was saved from cancellation and was renewed for an additional five seasons by Netflix. So was “Lucifer,” and many others.

Feel free to celebrate!

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[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 10 points 11 months ago

I saw this article first, but startrek.com has an announcement with a couple of brief quotes:

“Thank you to our incredible Star Trek: Prodigy fans, who championed not just a show, but a community that’s always been connected by the belief that we build a better future together,” said executive producer Alex Kurtzman and co-showrunners Dan and Kevin Hageman. “We set out to inspire you, but you inspired us. The team is still hard at work on the second season, and we can’t wait to share it with the amazing fans around the world.”

“I've always held that the Star Trek fan base is among the strongest and most intelligent in the world. They have shown their collective passion, and we’re happy to be able to celebrate Prodigy once again,” said Kate Mulgrew, voice of Admiral Janeway.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Kate Mulgrew sure knows how to please her fans.

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 9 points 11 months ago

Excluded from the deal are Canada, where Prodigy is carried by CTV.ca and the CTV App, and in SkyShowtime’s European territories: the Nordics, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain and Central and Eastern Europe.

[-] WrittenWeird@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This Canadian currently pays for:

  • Premium/4k/ Expensive Netflix
  • Amazon Prime
  • Disney+
  • Paramount+
  • YouTube Premium
  • Crave (going away at Christmas)
  • Curiosity Stream
  • CBC Gem
  • Spotify

The CTV App can fuck itself. I'll be pirating the show and I'm not even ashamed.-

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 7 points 11 months ago

Jeeze, I wasn't even aware that Gem had a paid tier...

[-] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

You pay more for streaming then cable used to cost.

[-] WrittenWeird@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Not quite, but it's getting closer.

[-] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Wow, Canada must charge a lot more for cable than the US then. When I cut the cord in 2012 I was paying about $60 USD per month. I just got an offer for $70/mo for 2 years. You are paying more then that at least.

[-] nocturne213@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

I was paying $120ish for cable in 2014 (not including cable internet, with that it was nearly $200). We would have cut the cord earlier, but without cable our internet went way up and we may as well have had cable too.

[-] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, they tried that here too. Luckily the state stepped in and made it hard for the cable company to monopolize the system like that.

[-] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago

Weird that it’s excluded in Canada - since it won’t be streaming on Crave as well as broadcast on CTV Sci-fi.

Up to now, Netflix has been able to get the streaming rights to CTV Sci-Fi Channel shows if Crave doesn’t take the complementary streaming portion of the Canadian market.

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago

It's a little clear, but I think there's a chance it will show up on CTV Sci-Fi. We'll have to see.

[-] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago

I’m not seeing the coming in 2024 notice on my Netflix in Canada nor the option to be reminded when it’s released.

CTV’s app is still showing all 20 episodes of Prodigy season one listed as available for CTV Sci-fi Channel subscribers.

[-] billmason@mastodon.social 7 points 11 months ago
[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 7 points 11 months ago

I was actually linking to it as you sent this!

[-] 2000mph@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Glad it got picked up. I thought it would be Amazon Prime most likely to get it as they'd already invested in Picard. But I'm fine with Netflix. I'm due to get back round to Netflix after Christmas on my subscription rotation plan so hopefully I can binge watch both seasons of Prodigy by then.

[-] gnuplusmatt@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago

I was hoping for Prime, but their kids offering is pretty anemic compared to Netflix. With the cost of Netflix it only gets a few months a year in our household too

[-] SpaceScotsman@startrek.website 5 points 11 months ago

This is a good change. I think we could be in a much better place if companies that owned both production and streaming were more open about licensing.

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago

The pendulum seems to be swinging back toward that model, at least in some cases.

[-] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum it is then.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 11 months ago

Don't let friends use streaming TV subscriptions.

[-] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yar 🏴‍☠️

[-] porthos@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago

WOOF WOOF WOOF

[-] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago

Go team Star Trek fans and Prodigy team! I don't have Netflix, and have no plan to get it. However, I still got your back, Prodigy fans. I'll keep an eye out for the release of Prodigy season 2 physical media and get that when it's released. And, promote Prodigy to others.

[-] hoodlem@hoodlem.me 1 points 11 months ago

Sorry I have nothing to contribute to the discussion except:

YES!!!!!!!

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