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Just delaying the inevitable given netflix kills shows after the 2nd season
I don’t think Netflix actually cancels shows after two seasons any more often than other networks do.
Somehow people got it into their heads that Netflix is far more cancel-happy than its competitors, but if you look at the numbers, traditional TV networks have had like a 50% cancellation rate for decades.
Even TOS was cancelled after two seasons!
If Netflix is more prone to cancelling shows at all, which I’m not convinced is even true, it can’t be by an enormous margin.
Actually there’s both metric evidence and statements by senior Netflix executives that a show has to do well in the first few weeks to be renewed.
They’re also very committed to their drop it all at once, or at most in 2 parts per season.
So it creates an environment where shows are rarely renewed unless they are top of the streaming charts.
They may have a different decision criteria for kid and family shows though.
There was an article a few weeks ago about how Netflix only has about a 15% cancellation rate. Unfortunately there was no deep dive into the data, so the figures are suspect. A few factors that weren't considered:
- A very significant percentage of Netflix programming is reality TV and cheap junk. This doesn't get cancelled because well, it's cheap.
- Many series don't get cancelled, they just aren't renewed. If Netflix tells the producers this is the last season, they're gonna rush the storyline to some kinda ending regardless of whether it was originally supposed to stretch several more seasons.
Correct me if I'm wrong but if anyone kills the show, wouldn't it be Paramount? Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service.
I know people have their issues with Netflix but I'm just relieved it's not Peacock or some other service no one cares about.
Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service.
Just as a TV network "cancels" a series by deciding not to order/air it, Netflix could do the same. Theoretically.
But it seems clear at this point that Paramount believes that it'll be able to make a return on its investment, so it's just a matter of where the show eventually lands, not if the new season gets created.
Unless they do like WB did for Batgirl, and shitcan the entire thing permanently after production is complete, for a tax write-off.
To be clear, I was being completely hypothetical. It makes no sense for Netflix to cancel something they literally just bought.
Sadly they gave Manifest a 3rd and 4th season.
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So you're saying it's already cancelled again.
new record incoming, removed from the service before even being added.
i like prodigy but i hate netflix :(
Yarr
hello guybrush threepwood you sure are mighty
How appropriate. You fight like a cow!
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At least you'll be able to find it on the high seas now, rather than it rotting on some hard drive in the back of a cupboard.
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Hi everyone! Netflix by far is the best home for Prodigy in the current streaming landscape.
They have the largest media share and Star Trek has historically done exceptionally well on their service — this opens the door for more seasons of our show.
Animated shows like “The Dragon Prince” have run up to seven seasons on Netflix.
“Longmire” was saved from cancellation and was renewed for an additional five seasons by Netflix. So was “Lucifer,” and many others.
Feel free to celebrate!
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I saw this article first, but startrek.com has an announcement with a couple of brief quotes:
“Thank you to our incredible Star Trek: Prodigy fans, who championed not just a show, but a community that’s always been connected by the belief that we build a better future together,” said executive producer Alex Kurtzman and co-showrunners Dan and Kevin Hageman. “We set out to inspire you, but you inspired us. The team is still hard at work on the second season, and we can’t wait to share it with the amazing fans around the world.”
“I've always held that the Star Trek fan base is among the strongest and most intelligent in the world. They have shown their collective passion, and we’re happy to be able to celebrate Prodigy once again,” said Kate Mulgrew, voice of Admiral Janeway.
Kate Mulgrew sure knows how to please her fans.
Excluded from the deal are Canada, where Prodigy is carried by CTV.ca and the CTV App, and in SkyShowtime’s European territories: the Nordics, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain and Central and Eastern Europe.
This Canadian currently pays for:
- Premium/4k/ Expensive Netflix
- Amazon Prime
- Disney+
- Paramount+
- YouTube Premium
- Crave (going away at Christmas)
- Curiosity Stream
- CBC Gem
- Spotify
The CTV App can fuck itself. I'll be pirating the show and I'm not even ashamed.-
Jeeze, I wasn't even aware that Gem had a paid tier...
You pay more for streaming then cable used to cost.
Not quite, but it's getting closer.
Wow, Canada must charge a lot more for cable than the US then. When I cut the cord in 2012 I was paying about $60 USD per month. I just got an offer for $70/mo for 2 years. You are paying more then that at least.
I was paying $120ish for cable in 2014 (not including cable internet, with that it was nearly $200). We would have cut the cord earlier, but without cable our internet went way up and we may as well have had cable too.
Yeah, they tried that here too. Luckily the state stepped in and made it hard for the cable company to monopolize the system like that.
Weird that it’s excluded in Canada - since it won’t be streaming on Crave as well as broadcast on CTV Sci-fi.
Up to now, Netflix has been able to get the streaming rights to CTV Sci-Fi Channel shows if Crave doesn’t take the complementary streaming portion of the Canadian market.
It's a little clear, but I think there's a chance it will show up on CTV Sci-Fi. We'll have to see.
I’m not seeing the coming in 2024 notice on my Netflix in Canada nor the option to be reminded when it’s released.
CTV’s app is still showing all 20 episodes of Prodigy season one listed as available for CTV Sci-fi Channel subscribers.
@ValueSubtracted @startrek Official announcement: https://www.startrek.com/news/star-trek-prodigy-to-stream-on-netflix
I was actually linking to it as you sent this!
Glad it got picked up. I thought it would be Amazon Prime most likely to get it as they'd already invested in Picard. But I'm fine with Netflix. I'm due to get back round to Netflix after Christmas on my subscription rotation plan so hopefully I can binge watch both seasons of Prodigy by then.
I was hoping for Prime, but their kids offering is pretty anemic compared to Netflix. With the cost of Netflix it only gets a few months a year in our household too
This is a good change. I think we could be in a much better place if companies that owned both production and streaming were more open about licensing.
The pendulum seems to be swinging back toward that model, at least in some cases.
Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum it is then.
Don't let friends use streaming TV subscriptions.
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WOOF WOOF WOOF
Go team Star Trek fans and Prodigy team! I don't have Netflix, and have no plan to get it. However, I still got your back, Prodigy fans. I'll keep an eye out for the release of Prodigy season 2 physical media and get that when it's released. And, promote Prodigy to others.
Sorry I have nothing to contribute to the discussion except:
YES!!!!!!!
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