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Don't get me wrong, I have Grayjay installed, and it works flawlessly. Seems to work even better than Tubular which is what I use currently.

This is my only gripe (well, and the fact that it isn't open source, but I can live with that), and I really want the project to succeed. I just can't get past the perma dark mode, but I'll stay on the lookout for when it releases a light mode, and I'll start using it then because I really want the project to succeed.

Okay, to be quite honest, you're reading way too deep into a matter that doesn't even concern you considering you're not a resident of France, and I'm probably wasting too much of my own time even entertaining your rambling.

So we'll stop here. I'll just close with what I know from experience with these kinds of policies, they always come out rough and broad but the details can (and will) be refined as its implementation spreads nationwide and they start covering the pot holes.

And it will spread nationwide, because it wouldn't make sense in the context of France to have a government-funded program only apply to a small region of France. It's not a municipal policy and France isn't composed of individual, sovereign states either.

Again, none of these things should need to be said since that's pretty much how all new policy launches work. And as usual, the person I'm debating doesn't even know the basics of how X country operates and apparently don't know how policy works in general, yet still they believe they can educate me on this matter. So I'm forced to conclude this indeed must be a day ending in -y.

Speaking of day, have a good one!

What are you even talking about at this point? The article is very clear.

There was a trial where schools were asked to get students to leave their phones in their lockers or in a pouch. The results were positive, so now they are expanding it nationwide. I don't know what is complicated about this.

Is it gonna be flawless? No, and there probably is room for improvements. But it isn't wasteful or short-sighted as you claim.

You'd do well to know that most schools in France are public and equipped with lockers, so this isn't that big of an added expense. Sure, it could be bothersome if teachers have to tell students to leave their phones on their lockers, I guess. But that's about it. Worst case it will be as it was back in my days, where the teacher kept the phones of the rogue students on his table until the end of classes.

They'll probably never gonna get everyone. But if they can get even 60% of students to leave their phones in their lockers all day, that's already a net positive for very little added costs, most of which won't be monetary unless it's a school with particularly degraded lockers that must be replaced.

I don't find it necessary to answer the rest of the rambling. Contraband? Criminalising parents? Lol. Kids lie to their parents all the time, they buy phones behind their backs. Holding parents criminally accountable would be insane.

You still haven't answered what you are getting at here. These rules have to be enforced either way, so I don't know why you think complaining your way out of it should even be a factor. It isn't. Schools need to deal with it, simple as.

Or are you just saying "well, I don't see how this can be enforced so they might as well not do anything!"?

it's not the schools responsibility to take on the liability of what comes with that (ie. Holding onto thousands of dollars worth of tech with the ability to keep that tech in the same condition it was in when it was confiscated for an untold amount of time),

But it is, actually. Lol. It's always been. I've had my phone taken in class a few times, and it was always returned at the end. It's really not a big deal.

I don't know what you mean by "Holding onto thousands of dollars worth of tech". Its up to the teachers to keep it for the duration of the classes, and to return them at the end. They don't need a safe to keep them in. It really isn't that big a deal.

it is the parents responsibility to make sure their children aren't ringing such distracting material to school.

It should be, but again, they aren't. Which is why the schools must intervene. And it's not really something they want to do, it is something they have to do, by government mandate.

Sure, but we're talking about a way different scale. "If you knew what you were doing" being a key word here.

It's never been easier to come across this garbage when youtube/Instagram/Tiktok comes installed on most phones by default. What's worse, there have never been so many grifters spewing the same shit.

Back in the day, you might have been able to call Limbaugh an isolated instance of a clear grifter getting paid to spread lies.

Nowadays, the Tate clones are so ubiquitous that it's hard to point out the flaws in thinking because so many people seem to believe in them. But its just the algorithm feeding you more of the same, over and over.

And that is the fault of the parents who chose to hand phones to these kids. It is not the fault of the school, nor is it something the school should have to do anything about

Okay so, because some parents are bad and fail at educating their kids properly, society shouldn't take a role in correcting that behaviour and instead should just let kids be damaged for life, did I understand you correctly?

I don't know where you're from (although I can guess), but here in Europe, and this is an article about France, we recognise the state has a role to fulfill in society, we all pay taxes and expect them to be used for the benefit of all. I don't see any problems with schools being the enforcers of government legislation in this instance.

Also, everything else you wrote... I mean, it is obvious that your school system is very different from what I'm familiar with. Because yes, it IS the school's responsibility to make sure that rules are applied properly in their premises, the money/resources necessary to do so are a secondary thought. This shouldn't be something that needs to be explained, but well, here we are.

Does anybody but me remember when schools banned walkmen? What about portable CD players? Gameboy?

Except none of these things were feeding Andrew Tate or Joe Rogan garbage straight into their highly impressionable skulls.

I, for one, support the banning of phones in schools. The social media addiction has been shown to cause depression, particularly in girls, and the brainwashing is ever more apparent.

If anything, this policy fails by not going far enough. I question whether kids should have access to social media at all before a certain age.

Perhaps.

I mean, it's not like YouTube creators are happy with the state of the platform either. They keep getting paid less and less to the point that they have to resort to begging for donations or include sponsorships in the videos.

I imagine at this point other platforms are well positioned to capitalize on what YouTube has been doing to the platform for some time now. Personally I really like what platform aggregators like Grayjay are doing: basically the idea of following creators, not platforms.

So you can just install Grayjay now through their website and you'll be surprised by how many youtubers you follow are already on other platforms.

Don't lock it down. Just buy a cheap phone, populate it with inane stuff like pictures of food and travel.

Create a puppet Instagram/facebook account and do the same, and don't install WhatsApp until you're past security.

Better yet, don't visit the US. Who knows how much more fucked up it will get as time goes on.

European here.

Same.

Religious

ALL religions, though? What about Buddhism?