RideAgainstTheLizard

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They're better! We agree.

[–] RideAgainstTheLizard@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I also want to say our usernames are very apt for this debate

[–] RideAgainstTheLizard@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Explain how the meme excludes rural areas, because it seems pretty general and not city-specific to me.

Are you trying to argue that rural populations are not included in the full set of populations who use cars? Of course you're not, because that would be silly.

"Right wing propaganda" - what a ridiculous claim to make

[–] RideAgainstTheLizard@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As with a lot of my responses here, you're only responding within the context of cities, and even more narrowly you're referring to downtown/commercial/recreational areas that need to be walkable.

You're right to say we should have more walkable cities, however it's not a valid argument against electrifying vehicles.

Yeah, so in the context of cars, a small step in the right direction is the introduction of electric cars to replace ICE cars. It's a feasible and available step. I'm not hearing any other currently feasible ideas, and saying "just use public transport/bikes" is not a solution for every human who currently has a car.

[–] RideAgainstTheLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

So what should people in areas not serviced by public transport do?

All avenues are important. Effort needs to be put into what you stated, but effort also needs to be put into helping people who are living month to month make the small changes that they are able to. Not everyone is in a privileged position of being able to upend their entire world without life changing consequences.

Exactly, well said chad 💪

Hell yeah they are, thank you chad

[–] RideAgainstTheLizard@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

And how is it right wing propaganda if I've pointed out a reality? Public transport is not available or viable for all rural communities. Propaganda?

You didn't state that in your response though, right? Your response was general.

And what about all the power needed to manage those systems and networks? Should we just go back to hunting and gathering?

 

Many cafés and fast food places these days provide disposable dishes and cutlery when you're eating in. This used to infuriate me, but it seems to be improving slightly now as the trend has moved towards using compostable dishes instead of plastic ones.

However, it's still waste. It makes me wonder, what is more costly in the long run? Providing customers with compostable items or running hot dishwashers and using soap and water all day to reuse dishes?

 

The fact that it's the consumer's responsibility to sort their waste and to try and minimise its impact on the environment in the first place is completely wrong to me.

Most people in urban areas rely on stores for basic survival, and the vast majority of products we buy there come with unnecessary waste. It doesn't make any sense to then tell these people "by the way, you'd better clean up that mess when you're done because it's bad for the environment". If governments were truly concerned or willing to act, this waste wouldn't make it into our homes in the first place.

If a company wants to sell a product, they should be held accountable for the waste that comes along with it. They should have to prove that they can reuse the waste and be incentivised to reduce it. If they can't, they can't operate.

Ecocide laws need to become commonplace, and the consumer should not be responsible for their waste if they haven't got legitimate alternative options. I understand this community is more willing to do their part in this regard, but I don't think it'll ever be feasible to expect this from the wider population. We need to stem the flow, not just handle the mess.

 

Is anyone here involved in or aware of any organisations that create marketing campaigns that aim to tackle climate change via social influence?

An example that comes to mind are the UK group Led By Donkeys, but they focus on politics. I’m very interested in this line of work and would love to know more about it.

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