[-] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Never attribute to malice, that which can easily be explained by incompetence.

[-] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 3 points 8 months ago

Is it?

What about the Armenian genocide? Does it get taught in Turkish schools? Is there a statue?

What about Holodomor? Does that get taught in Russian schools? Is there a statue?

What about the up to 50 million who died as a consequence of the Great Leap Forward? Is there a statue commemorating them?

[-] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's disgusting. Goes to show they don't actually care about Palestinians and probably don't even think this is a genocide.

I mean, if they genuinely cared or thought this was a genocide, why are they now defending China and Russia blocking an immediate ceasefire that would at least temporarily stop Palestinian suffering?

How entirely predictable that the same kind of people who make excuses for Russia's role in the genocide in Darfur, Russia's role in Syria, Russian war crimes in Ukraine, and China's treatment of the Uyghurs, care more about scoring points against the US than ending the war in Gaza.

[-] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 2 points 8 months ago

Fediverse bug. I see the correct thumbnail, but have seen the wrong thumbnail on other posts when using a kbin account.

[-] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 2 points 8 months ago

Article:

“It’s on the lower end of what we would expect,” said Jamey Szalay, a plasma physicist at Princeton University who led the study. But “it’s not totally prohibitive” for habitability, he added. ... “We don’t really know how much oxygen you need to make life,” she said. “So the fact that it’s lower than some earlier, wishful-thinking estimates is not such a problem.”

[-] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 1 points 8 months ago

Ok.

But in the quote you used above he explicitly says he is not including the Holocaust. Perhaps use another quote next time.

To be clear, and I've said it here before, but IMHO it's not helpful to make nazi/holocaust comparisons, when you can call them fascists or racial supremacists (because plenty of them verifiably are based on what they have provably said and done) and call what they're doing ethnic cleansing or genocide.

It's far harder to deny.

But I suppose the language you use depends on the goal you have in mind.

[-] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 1 points 8 months ago

What about these guys? ... Meyer repeatedly argued that there are parallels between the Nazi treatment of Jews leading to (but not including) the Holocaust, and Israel’s dehumanization of Palestinians.

???

Ie. Meyer is explicitly NOT arguing that it is comparable to the holocaust, but only to the treatment of Jews leading up to the Holocaust.

[-] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Sorry, but nope.

Attempting to discredit an argument, because of who said it and why they supposedly said it, is a text book ad hominem.

It's especially painful, because you're defending a corporation (run by a white male) with an abysmal record on women's rights, who sell a product that has a track record of damaging young girls' self image, from accusations of purplewashing. Purplewashing being a term, that as far as I know, was originally termed by female feminists. It's a bit like if I quoted Emmeline Pankhurst, and you said the quote was nonsense because I don't know what's it's like to be a woman.

But more generally, I suppose that's the danger of a superficial understanding of identity politics. In practice it is often used to divide groups with a common cause, like how the far right have used TERF ideology in an attempt to divide the LGBTQ+ movement and pit feminists against the trans community, claiming trans women aren't real women, because of (and I quote) "lived experiences". (Luckily actual lesbians don't often fall into this trap, because they know that this is nonsense because they know actual trans people and know they face similar struggles and live through similar experiences.)

And from a feminist perspective it perpetuates gender binaries and essentialism. The whole men are form Mars, women are from Venus nonsense. In the case of the Barbie movie, purplewashing is very similar to pinkwashing, greenwashing, bluewashing, etc. So you don't need to actually be a woman to understand why purplewashing is problematic, just like you don't need to be gay to understand why pinkwashing is problematic.

But hey, what do I know. I'm just Ken.

Anyway, agree to disagree.

[-] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

is likely coming from a place that is uncomfortable with the kernels of meaning in the film. … in part because the gender of the critic you linked to is also male.

Nah. That's just an ad hominem. The linked article was the second to top link when you do a quick google.

I know the right disliked Barbie because it was feminist. (Mattel denies the movie's feminist, btw. Which should also tell you something. Presumably they were worried it'd cost them money in feminist utopias like Saudi Arabia).

I liked the movie, but was simply pointing out it was also purplewashing for a company with a poor reputation. Which it is. That's a left-wing feminist argument. I mean, the movie's fun and it was super pretty, but patriarchy isn't really all that funny is it? Andrea Dworkin this ain't.

to mere corporate dissent generation when both can be equally true. ... I have to presume is what the creators of the film actually cared about

They can't be equally true in a movie made by a large corporation. IRC Margot Robbie made $50 million. Understandably if you're getting paid that much, you aren't going to spend much time dwelling on stuff like their treatment of women in their factories:

https://chinalaborwatch.org/mattels-unceasing-abuse-of-chinese-workers-an-investigation-of-six-mattel-supplier-factories/

Instead you'll focus on the pretty outfits and avoid mentioning femicide during press junkets.

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