Unrelated to my recent posts on sciencefiction, and not sure if this is something I should ask here publically but it is the easiest place I could think off. But @dgerard@awful.systems is Rationalwiki dead or not?
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That is a bit weird, as iirc the robots in star wars are not based on LLMs, the robots in SWs can think, and can be sentient beings but are often explicitly limited. (And according to Lucas this was somewhat intentional to show that people should be treated equally (if this was the initial intent is unclear as Lucas does change his mind a bit from time to time), the treatment of robots as slaves in SW is considered bad). What a misreading of the universe and the point. Also time flows the other way folks, LLMs didn't influence the creation of robots in SWs.
Also if the droids were LLMs, nobody would use them to plot hyperspace lanes past stars. Somebody could send a message about Star Engorgement and block hyperspace travel for weeks.
But yes, the backlash is going to be real.
E: ow god im really in a 'take science fiction too seriously' period. (more SW droids are not LLMs stuff)
At least Maria has a name, and a face.
Sex sells obv. On the note of weird a bit out of place female-coded robots (for who I will be using she/her pronouns out of convenience). I'm still confused why rebel moon on netflix gets promoted with this image.
(also note this female coded robot has no face, but does have nipples (who does she think she is? Batman?)). Considering she is only in the 'people who visit prostitutes are disgusting' bar scene with the sexual harassing gay guy, she then walks outside in a weird catwalk like walk (she is in the background in other scenes where she acts normally) and then disappears. (What is it with Snyder being weird about sex workers (weird fetishization and some weird madonna whore like complex) and gay people (see the weird scene in the dawn of the dead remake), and making queer coded people evil/ugly (See the persians in 300 and the badguy of rebel moon is a monsterfucker)?)
Sorry for the derail, but I'm shown this image every time I open netflix and it always weirds me out (it gets worse in a way, as Zack created an expansive star wars like universe and everybody has an backstory which people all put into wikis and stuff, and I don't think this robot even has a name or backstory. Even the robot bartender with the candles has a backstory). I also have so many complaints about this movie I could talk about this for hours I think, it is amazing esp as the directors cut makes the movies worse (spaceships are powered by enslaved naked sentient giant women what? And of course the power usage also physically hurts them (and why, none of the other ships have a crying giant woman but they can travel intergalactic distances). Coal powered spaceships now replaced by bone powered spaceships, using pets as suicide bombs? Why does Zack think, seedy guy from bar is actually a seedy guy is subversive, esp as Solo (released 5 years earlier) already did this to show Han Solo is an exception, and you are making the 'edgy' version? I could go on).
But yes, think the pivot image is pretty tame.
it’s not like any of you read him regularly
Of course not he is a capitalist pigdog! A traitor to the cause! Bla bla. ;)
I posted his work here before, despite thinking he isnt totally correct about his stance on capitalism stuff. He seems to be a good source on the whole medical chemistry science field. And quite skeptical and hype resistance. (Prob also why he I could make de self deprecating joke above). He wrote also negatively about the hackers who do homemade meds thing.
(I know im using the clip here to mock the AI-bros but I actually think the video while a bit cringe is also really touching and genuine, like hope the guy still loves the sport as much as he did then, and gets as much from it. (And the story gets even more touching when you read more about it).
Yes, of course this stuff isn't new, google bombing (or looking for the specific words where there suddenly are more black than white people on a google image search) has been a thing for a while now. But this has the added authority of googles AI saying it. And it also needs just 1 source (which always was a fiction account) which is what makes it scary.
The whole trust me im lying multi step program of getting something into the media can be tossed out. It is now even easier to lie online.
Artist notices that his horror creations get listed by AI bots as real. Decides to troll. It works. 2 hours, 1 source. We are so cooked.
Abusing privileged identities like this to do things is apparently a thing the younger hackers are quite good at so this will all be fun.
Painting a cross on the skull of the pope and then claiming this is wrong is a whole new kind of heresy.
looks up from recording my new mathematically speaking 'a podcast for the new thinking man' podcast
A phew, I was worried for a moment there.
E: Apologies, it is real I should have googled it. I know nothing of the podcast, I just tried to make a 'this is what a Rationalist/logic bro would name their podcast' joke. Ow god he even has an episode about conflict theory (but in contrast to Scotts post on conflict theory he actually talks about a historical mathematician so not the same thing, but that was a moment of double take). There is also an Adam Allred who is a 'masculinty speaker' or something, who is also into AI, Maga and everything else of course, but not sure if they are the same person (nope different people, turns out if you are called Adam Allred you are forced to make a podcast). But the math podcast Adam seems to be a good guy who is pro lgbt/BLM etc. (He did get his twitter account hacked which is now spamming people).