aski3252

Just the world's politicians have

Not sure this is true. When people have more percieved short term problems (war, job security, inflation, etc), percieved long term problems become less important, especially if the proposed solutions have a negative impact on the short term problems.

Has it?

Yep.

You added a lot of weasel words

The point is that Trumps image can change, even for his core supporters.. I obviously have no clue exactly how many of his supporters were dissilusioned, which is why I will use "weasel words" (aka estimates and guesses)..

I hear a lot of "this will surely be the end of him"

I doubt that there will ever be the "one thing" where everyone suddenly realises they have been duked.. Obviously that's not how it works..

if martyr figures were that powerful

Ever heard of George Floyd? Trayvon Martin? Eric Garner? Those people weren't even influencial to the left wing as a movement when they were alive (unlike Kirk), yet they still fueled one of the biggest movements in recent years.

start martyring themselves?

Some people do that, but in order to be powerful, they have to have been killed by the enemy you want to mobilize people against.. Which is why the right will do whatever they can to blame this on "the radical left", no matter what.

I don't think Martyrs tend to be all that useful.

I think you are incredibly wrong on this point.

one less active propagandist

Pretty insignificant considering the countless other right wing propagandists out there who do pretty much the same thing. Also, events like this have a tendency to inspire more propagandists and radicalize people.

power vacuum and loss of leadership within turning point

Possible, but again, tp is not THAT important. They have turned a significant part of the youth and have a likeminded regime in power that continues to concolidate power. And they can an will use this event to consolidate more.

chilling effect on this sort of rhetoric

That's not gonna happen..

impulsive and poorly planned 'retaliations' causing further damage

Damage to whom? You don't know because the potential results are unpredictable.

reminding those 'in power' of their mortality

Like Trump's failed assassinations?

The "Epstein thing" is never going to have reprecussions

It's hard to tell, but it has disillusioned at least some of his supporters, showing that it is possible, at least for some people, to snap out of the cult. Obviously some will always support him, no matter what.

it will take a lot of time and significant financial investment for someone else to fill that role.

I don't think it will hurt them in any significant way, maybe even the opposite. Kirk is still incredibly useful as a martyr figure and it's not like he had much of an operational role. He was a propagandist and he will still be used to spread far right propaganda, even in his death.

I understand that he was incredibly influencial, but that's mostly because he was a pioneer of the modern right who made the right wing cool to a younger audience, but his methods have since been adapted by many other right wing propagandists.

Or can you explain why you think his assasination will weaken or harm the right? Because I don't see it.

If it wasn't this it was going to be something else.

Trump isn't invincible. Stuff like the Epstein thing actually seemed to hurt him. This is a very convenient distraction.

At least this definitely solved a problem permanently.

What problem is solved? Kirk was a very effective propagator, especially with younger people, but he's not irreplaceable. And his death is already being used as very effective propaganda.

A repeat of something like the doge employee assult could fix some issues

Again, what issue is solved? I don't understand what you think this achieves. The main effect stuff like this has is giving the right effective propaganda material and escalating violence. And the left is not in a position where escalating violence benefits the US, quite the opposite.

there was never going to be enough capitulation

I do not suggest capitulation or appeasement.. But in order to resist effectively, you need stronger organization. This makes organizing way more difficult.

How? Why? This could have incredibly dangerous consequences. Didn't Trump send the national guard after a dodge employee was beaten up? Only time how he will exploit this situation for further gaining power.

Seriously, I'm shocked how nonchalant people are reacting. Further escalation of political violence is extremely dangerous for the left at the moment and could be extremely lucrative for the Trump regime, which is constantly testing the water on how far they can go in terms of seizing power.

Don't forget, it was also an assassination that was the trigger for the Kristallnacht. You hopefully are not quite at that stage, but it is events like this that moves you closer..

Definitions, especially definitions of political terms, vary a lot these days. But if we go by the leftist (and original) definition, the terms are definitely mutually exclusive.

There are multiple candidates, but if elections are held in a one party state, they all belong to the same party or a party that is effectively under the dominating party's control.

The root of the problem is the system

If you only drink sugary drinks, water doesn't taste all that great in comparison.

The only teal obstacle is some anti cheat software, mostly kernel level anti cheat.

So if you want to play shooters like fortnite, pubg, valorant or rainbow six siege, you are out of luck.

Otherwise, you probably won't have any issues.

defended his going to Epstein's island.

Wait a second, are you just going to drop that without any further elaboration or source?

As far as I was aware, he knew him and he met with him a couple of times. His reaction to getting asked about it wasn't that great, but him "going to Epstein island" is a bit on another level, no?

It’s not going to work

Of course it would, at least for some of them.. You can't seriously believe that people cannot change their minds, especially conservatives, who often only have their views because of living in a bubble.

whose purpose is to convert us from our “ways”

Let them try. Let them actually lay out and present their twisted worldview. And if you don't want to see it or hear about it, fine, block their space. It's much more likely that they will change than it is for a leftist to change because the vast majority of leftists are actually familiar with the right and their believes. The other way around is generally a different story..