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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by hetzlemmingsworld to c/monero@monero.town

https://unstoppableswap.net / https://github.com/UnstoppableSwap/core makers (i do not mean a SW developers, but swap providers) seems to have swap markup (assuming a fee) of around 3% which is too expensive and along with the limits on amount of traded coin pretty unusable IMO. Am I missing any makers or source for it which allows near zero fees/markup? Why such makers are not available (by default)?

I am currently using RetoSwap https://github.com/retoaccess1/haveno-reto which allowed me to place and complete the BTC and ETH exchange to XMR at 0% fee. (only paying regular Monero tx fee for a temporary custody)

How to setup an UnstoppableSwap maker? Is it this https://github.com/UnstoppableSwap/core/blob/master/dev-docs/asb/README.md . I do not see any easy to understand tutorial for layman which would tell me the requirements (evaluate the cost) + be easily understandable.

[-] hetzlemmingsworld 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Haveno itself is a testing version which does not allow real trading.

You need to find other software based on Haveno, which allows real trading (uses Monero mainnet servers while Haveno itself a testnet?).

Possibly most popular is Reto (RetoSwap). Its official Github repository is https://github.com/retoaccess1/haveno-reto

I am yet to find any list of Haveno mainnet software. Btw. here is some guide which explains steps for trading inside Haveno based trading software: https://internetlifeforum.com/showthread.php?28833-Exchanging-Monero-and-fiat-privately-without-KYC-using-open-source-software-Haveno

[-] hetzlemmingsworld 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
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submitted 3 weeks ago by hetzlemmingsworld to c/haveno@monero.town

Do You have any comment on these claims about Haveno?

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they don't allow to use external wallets such as OpenMonero to post arbitration bonds from, thus making haveno-reto less secure then OM.

HuggingChat AI comment:

Arbitration bonds are a crucial component of Haveno dispute resolution mechanism, and requiring users to hold funds within Haveno own wallet might increase the risk of centralization. However, it is essential to consider the reasoning behind this design choice. Perhaps the developers aimed to simplify the user experience or reduce the attack surface by limiting wallet interactions.

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In my opinion, Haveno-reto is not decentralized at all, bc order book is not shared between instances.

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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by hetzlemmingsworld to c/haveno@monero.town

I see that my cryptocurrency to cryptocurrency trade period is 1 day. It can happen that my cryptocurrency payment (made to the wallet of other user) is not confirmed during that 1 day period. So what happens next?

The tooltip says that when the period is exceeded, both parties can open a dispute. But that does not give me any idea about how this is handled and what are the risks. I am unable to find the answer at https://docs.haveno.exchange/the-project/trade-protocol/?query=trade+period

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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by hetzlemmingsworld to c/haveno@monero.town

My BTC wallet (Electrum) generates addresses which I can use for receiving new coins. So I have copied one unused address and set is as my Haveno account.

Now I want to sell BTC on Haveno (I have BTC on different address than the one I have set), so during trade I can send from any wallet or I must send from the one I have defined as my Haveno BTC wallet?

Maybe my question is nonsense, since I do not understand Bitcoin technicals. Thank you

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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by hetzlemmingsworld to c/haveno@monero.town

When i select an offer marked as SEPA, Haveno-reto warns that I have multiple SEPA payment accounts set and notice me that i should select correct one.

What If I accidentally select my SEPA account on a offer, which is marked as SEPA instant? Both accounts has same IBAN. Can I face any issues in arbitration etc.? I mean for example the system would require action earlier than the transaction would be complete.

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submitted 3 weeks ago by hetzlemmingsworld to c/haveno@monero.town

Placing an offer to sell my BTC and get XMR, it prefill 15% security deposit for both traders and this % is customizable. Why not to set it to 0% if both payment methods (BTC, XMR) are irreversible and why Haveno-reto does not set it like that automatically?

Existing offers of this currency pair usually has 15% or 40% deposit and the fee 1.8-20% which is also weird, I would expect people would be willing to trade like 0-1% just to cover the crypto. fees.

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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by hetzlemmingsworld to c/haveno@monero.town

At https://docs.haveno.exchange/the-project/payment_methods/0-all-methods/#2-altcoin-payment-methods I can not find any explanation why the limit is placed, i assume that it limits the loss per trade, but then the scammer can do multiple trades and the loss is the same? So what is the point? If it is not like that, then please explain or link me to an explanation? Thank you

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submitted 2 months ago by hetzlemmingsworld to c/firefox@lemmy.world

When You enable removal of all cookies upon web browser restart, is it wise to exempt tens of sites by adding them to the exception/allowed list:

about:settings#privacy -> Cookies... -> Manage exceptions "You can specify which websites are always or never allowed to use cookies and site data."

i am constantly bothered by the Stack Exchange Network which constantly keep me logged-out and when i login, it redirect me to a homepage instead of a previous page, when i go back, it shows as logged out, so i have to F5 the page. And this constantly repeats.

Am I rendering my attempt to reduce tracking near pointless by allowing many sites like Microsoft's Github, Stack overflow etc. to permanently store the data incl. cookies?

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submitted 4 months ago by hetzlemmingsworld to c/monero@monero.town

cross-posted from: https://lemmings.world/post/12787893

  1. SEPARATE MONERO ACCOUNTS - For privacy reason, organize own funds into accounts like “cash”, “work”, “trading”, “mining”, “donations”, etc.. And in order to later combine these individual accounts funds, sweep/withdraw each of the account balance the way, that you do NOT sweep/withdraw multiple accounts balances in a single transaction, but one transaction per account. Feather wallet may do this thanks to its "Coin control" functions? Source: https://getmonero.dev/public-address/subaddress.html ; https://docs.featherwallet.org/guides/features

  2. WAIT/AGE XMR AFTER RECEIVING IT - After receiving Monero (XMR) from a 3rd party, wait some time (a few hours to a few days)

  3. CHURN/MIX XMR BY SENDING IT TO OTHER OWN ACCOUNT - Churning/mixing means to send your Monero/XMR to a different account/wallet in order to make it harder for others to track you: "So after 1 churn, there is a 1 in 16 chance (6.25%) that this transaction is yours. After 2 churns, it is a 1 in 16x16 = 1/256 = 0.39% chance that the final output of the route is yours. After 3 churns, 1 in 16x16x16 = 1/4096 = 0.0244%".

    A) Send your entire (or part of) your account's balance to a different account/wallet of yours, such secret destination account won't be used for receiving 3rd party XMR (only yours).

    B) Send your entire account's balance to same account (its own address - self). In case you would send partial, you would mix churned outputs with non-churned making your anonymization effort more or less pointless.

  4. WAIT/AGE CHURNED/MIXED XMR AGAIN

  5. CHURN/MIX AGAIN BY SENDING TO SELF OR 3RD PARTY - In order to decrease chance (from above mentioned 6.25% to 0.39%) of output being attributed to you. When having various Monero accounts for various purposes (e.g. "work", "home"), possibly churn 2x before "merging" XMR from multiple accounts of yours, example: KYC'ed 3rd party -> MyWork -> MyWork2nd ......... 3rd party -> MyHome -> MyHome2nd -> MyHome3rd -> MyWork2nd


FAQ: Why it is not pointless to send Monero from/to self, meaning same account? Because sending to same account is effective in decreasing the chance of a transaction being traced (attributed to you), since "there is no way to see the address" and other person says "You can send to yourself as many times as you want, without anyone knowing you're actually doing it. Every such transaction (called "churn") puts you in a bigger crowd of possible senders." and another person claims similar "churn to your own wallet, as it is not possible to link the output to the wallet".

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submitted 4 months ago by hetzlemmingsworld to c/monero@lemmy.cafe

cross-posted from: https://lemmings.world/post/12787871

  1. SEPARATE MONERO ACCOUNTS - For privacy reason, organize own funds into accounts like “cash”, “work”, “trading”, “mining”, “donations”, etc.. And in order to later combine these individual accounts funds, sweep/withdraw each of the account balance the way, that you do NOT sweep/withdraw multiple accounts balances in a single transaction, but one transaction per account. Feather wallet may do this thanks to its "Coin control" functions? Source: https://getmonero.dev/public-address/subaddress.html ; https://docs.featherwallet.org/guides/features

  2. WAIT/AGE XMR AFTER RECEIVING IT - After receiving Monero (XMR) from a 3rd party, wait some time (a few hours to a few days)

  3. CHURN/MIX XMR BY SENDING IT TO OTHER OWN ACCOUNT - Churning/mixing means to send your Monero/XMR to a different account/wallet in order to make it harder for others to track you: "So after 1 churn, there is a 1 in 16 chance (6.25%) that this transaction is yours. After 2 churns, it is a 1 in 16x16 = 1/256 = 0.39% chance that the final output of the route is yours. After 3 churns, 1 in 16x16x16 = 1/4096 = 0.0244%".

A) Send your entire (or part of) your account's balance to a different account/wallet of yours, such secret destination account won't be used for receiving 3rd party XMR (only yours).

B) Send your entire account's balance to same account (its own address - self). In case you would send partial, you would mix churned outputs with non-churned making your anonymization effort more or less pointless.

  1. WAIT/AGE CHURNED/MIXED XMR AGAIN

  2. CHURN/MIX AGAIN BY SENDING TO SELF OR 3RD PARTY - In order to decrease chance (from above mentioned 6.25% to 0.39%) of output being attributed to you. When having various Monero accounts for various purposes (e.g. "work", "home"), possibly churn 2x before "merging" XMR from multiple accounts of yours, example: KYC'ed 3rd party -> MyWork -> MyWork2nd ......... 3rd party -> MyHome -> MyHome2nd -> MyHome3rd -> MyWork2nd


FAQ: Why it is not pointless to send Monero from/to self, meaning same account? Because sending to same account is effective in decreasing the chance of a transaction being traced (attributed to you), since "there is no way to see the address" and other person says "You can send to yourself as many times as you want, without anyone knowing you're actually doing it. Every such transaction (called "churn") puts you in a bigger crowd of possible senders." and another person claims similar "churn to your own wallet, as it is not possible to link the output to the wallet".

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  1. SEPARATE MONERO ACCOUNTS - For privacy reason, organize own funds into accounts like “cash”, “work”, “trading”, “mining”, “donations”, etc.. And in order to later combine these individual accounts funds, sweep/withdraw each of the account balance the way, that you do NOT sweep/withdraw multiple accounts balances in a single transaction, but one transaction per account. Feather wallet may do this thanks to its "Coin control" functions? Source: https://getmonero.dev/public-address/subaddress.html ; https://docs.featherwallet.org/guides/features

  2. WAIT/AGE XMR AFTER RECEIVING IT - After receiving Monero (XMR) from a 3rd party, wait some time (a few hours to a few days)

  3. CHURN/MIX XMR BY SENDING IT TO OTHER OWN ACCOUNT - Churning/mixing means to send your Monero/XMR to a different account/wallet in order to make it harder for others to track you: "So after 1 churn, there is a 1 in 16 chance (6.25%) that this transaction is yours. After 2 churns, it is a 1 in 16x16 = 1/256 = 0.39% chance that the final output of the route is yours. After 3 churns, 1 in 16x16x16 = 1/4096 = 0.0244%".

    A) Send your entire (or part of) your account's balance to a different account/wallet of yours, such secret destination account won't be used for receiving 3rd party XMR (only yours).

    B) Send your entire account's balance to same account (its own address - self). In case you would send partial, you would mix churned outputs with non-churned making your anonymization effort more or less pointless.

  4. WAIT/AGE CHURNED/MIXED XMR AGAIN

  5. CHURN/MIX AGAIN BY SENDING TO SELF OR 3RD PARTY - In order to decrease chance (from above mentioned 6.25% to 0.39%) of output being attributed to you. When having various Monero accounts for various purposes (e.g. "work", "home"), possibly churn 2x before "merging" XMR from multiple accounts of yours, example: KYC'ed 3rd party -> MyWork -> MyWork2nd ......... 3rd party -> MyHome -> MyHome2nd -> MyHome3rd -> MyWork2nd


FAQ: Why it is not pointless to send Monero from/to self, meaning same account? Because sending to same account is effective in decreasing the chance of a transaction being traced (attributed to you), since "there is no way to see the address" and other person says "You can send to yourself as many times as you want, without anyone knowing you're actually doing it. Every such transaction (called "churn") puts you in a bigger crowd of possible senders." and another person claims similar "churn to your own wallet, as it is not possible to link the output to the wallet".

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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by hetzlemmingsworld to c/protonprivacy@lemmy.world

Some feedback regarding Proton VPN documentation and some confusion regarding Firefox DNS configuration:

https://protonvpn.com/support/browser-extensions#firefox says:

"By default, Firefox does not route DNS queries through the HTTPS connection to our VPN servers" and then is mentioned a workaround to fix it.

That suggest alarming thing, that ProtonVPN Firefox user has to do some custom workaround in order to be private (prevent a DNS leak).

On another hand, https://protonvpn.com/support/dns-leaks-privacy says:

"DNS queries are routed through the VPN tunnel to be resolved on our servers"

these statements are a bit confusing/contradicting (though Proton later explains that this latest statement does not apply on a browser extension VPN apps) and Proton further adds at https://protonvpn.com/support/dns-leaks-privacy/#dns-over-https that the DNS leak can happen also due to enabled DoH feature in web browser.

Solution: ProtonVPN browser extension should (if possible) warn user in case it fails to process DNS and as a result, it is leaked. Vote for this feature request


Another "issue" is with the above mentioned/linked workaround (here I am speaking only about Firefox), this workaround: go to "about:config into the URL bar and hit . At the warning, click Accept the risk and continue → search for network.trr.mode"

In my case I had this set that variable to 5 which means DoH "Off by choice", Proton in said tutorial suggest value 3 instead, which means (According to https://wiki.mozilla.org/Trusted_Recursive_Resolver#DNS-over-HTTPS_Prefs_in_Firefox ) "Only use TRR, never use the native resolver.".

This confuses me since it looks like an opposite to what i have now, while any DNS leak site:

https://www.dnsleaktest.com

https://ipleak.net

does NOT report leak in my case nor in case i set network.trr.mode to 3. A bit weird but i guess no big deal?

Thanks for your feedback in advance.

[-] hetzlemmingsworld 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ok, so spending received XMR within 15 blocks (block time seems to be 2 minutes, so half a hour) is too early and spending every 6 months incoming payments in one single tx to my secondary wallet i suppose is too long time.. hmm, that is all quite complicated, I can't asses/compare these times (30 minutes vs 1 month vs 6 months) significance of the impact on anonymity. But thank you.

[-] hetzlemmingsworld 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The more outputs you have/use, to more traceable you get

Thanks for your input. ChatGPT says "using more outputs in your transactions can potentially lead to unintentional traceability if those outputs are later used in a larger transaction. This is why it is important to carefully plan and manage how you use outputs in your transactions to maximize privacy." So it confirms what you have said.

So I guess that I should avoid manually adding multiple outputs in aim to decrease chance of a tracking, I am saying that since i am usually getting small transactions and spending in big ones (which would "consolidate" small outputs and more less invalidate my anonymization effort). So I guess i will do just churning with single output to my secondary wallet and in case i want to "join" funds from "home" and "work" accounts, I can do:

C)

3rd party -> work -> work2nd

KYC'ed 3rd party -> home -> home2nd -> home3rd -> work2nd

and then spend big transaction from work2nd (or maybe i can skip the step "home3rd -> work2nd" and source the big transaction from various accounts, yet someone claimed last year "It seems that at the present moment, neither the Monero GUI/RPC/CLI wallets implement the ability to transfer from multiple addresses." and I can confirm I am unable to find it in Monero GUI [btw. it is very slow to sync (even tens of minutes if not ran for 2 weeks+), i am NOT running node and i am using Tor proxy inside it]. Feedback to what I have written is much appreciated.

[-] hetzlemmingsworld 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

don’t use a churn output with an unchurned output

You mean that the churning by sending from my wallet to this same wallet(i can also say account or sub account of the wallet) (sending to self) just part of its ballance, will result in churned and non churned outputs in that wallet and these will be joined together if i later (after a week) send a big transaction (or wallet sweep) causing my previous churning be pointless? Maybe in this case is better for simplicity to always churn (part or full balance - i do not know if there is any benefit in sending in parts or in full) to second account within my wallet (instead of sending to self/same address) to prevent this. And i will be sending XMR to a third parties only from that secondary account?

[-] hetzlemmingsworld 2 points 6 months ago

Maybe ask them to establish private (end to end encrypted - E2EE) communication channel by using PGP or ask them to use the service like proton.me which has E2EE mail. If they know some answer to your question, you can send them link to an password protected paste at https://bin.disroot.org

[-] hetzlemmingsworld 13 points 6 months ago

Thanks, I see that the cross-posting works like this: "In order to cross post, I need to first create the post in one community, then after I create the post, I can click the two nested squares icon under the title of the post (with the pop-up text “cross post”) that shows up on mouse-over." https://lemmy.world/post/354611

[-] hetzlemmingsworld 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I assume that you mean to receive XMR on own wallet 1, wait for example one week, send to own wallet 2, wait a few days and then spend it (for example in an e-shop)?

According to @jet@hackertalks.com jet@hackertalks.com suggestions, i assume that to improve this, i can split the first transaction between my wallets into two payments (hours or a day delay between each) and each sent to different wallet of mine, then making sure i do not send these two outputs later into same wallet of mine, which would compromise my anonymization attempt? Is this split into 2 payments doubling the difficulty to trace the payment?

The method described in this whole post of mine can be considered very unlikely to be traced by any government in the next decade? Thank you

[-] hetzlemmingsworld 2 points 6 months ago

Thanks, I would like to be able to understand how big improvement would be to send the same or similar amount to secondary wallet of mine when comparing to direct sending mentioned by you. I think that i want above average protection, but i am unable to estimate impact (on TX traceability) of 1,2 more transactions of similar amount between my wallets and i am not enough technical to read and understand tens of technical pages of the Monero whitepaper.

[-] hetzlemmingsworld 2 points 6 months ago

no, when i use ! like this: https://lemmings.world/c/[!qbittorrent@lemmy.ml](/c/qbittorrent@lemmy.ml) then it returns error "couldnt_find_community"

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