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scott@loves.tech There was a great substack piece on this google VP Prabhakar and the consequences of his tenure, and had never heard of him, but he was was appointed in 2018 to Adsense.

Does that chime with your own personal observations and experiences on the enshitification curve timeline?

This is not the original article but posting as a reference note

https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/17/24272786/google-search-prabhakar-raghavan-nick-fox

Here is another substack I found while trying to find the original substack outline the activities of the aforementioned VP, Prabhakar :sweat:

https://tapen.substack.com/p/enshittification-of-google

Should we then not be using the term syndication / network-syndication, or is that already to attached to other existent WWW technologies?

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Hey, In reverse I do the replying

2. There was no cognitive model for the word "federated" in my head. Nothing happens when I read it. Federation. Federal. No problem here.

I genuinely never encountered the "past tense" of the word until Activity Pub hit the scene and nothing happens, no connection. If I am dull. So be it. You know. This is really the marketing / communication point.

Guess what, federated still doesn't click, it is a mental block, I haven't gotten to the bit where I have the physical analogue for federated.

Say for example after we get over the amazeballs of email analogue relation "mail" (or post/postal), then we come across the CC or BCC, wow a mass mail out, basically wow that's cool, oh what there is junk mail too? All these existing real world analogs perfectly communicated in a few words or just word, the analogous precedence experience.

Federated. None.

The email domain example is used, I had to read it twice, I got it the second time, but the engine still don't start. No fire lit. We're talking the light bulb moment and this is very different to the multitude of technical lightbulbs the tec/dev will encounter, the end user in the main, will not care to know as they will never have time to know, that's the mass market, one lightbulb for all and that should be enough.

1. I'm just vibing off the idea, how to explain it not the technical choices. However, we do live with it on community in the raw state, so there is that. I suggested a filter or two types of modes iirc, I'll have to dig out that topic. Sunglasses or no sunglasses mode when NodeBB browsing.

What I need to do, personally, is hands on, set up activity pub technically on something somewhere to enjoy the whole, to take the next step whenever that happens.

I dunno yet if Activitypub is "wouldn't' it be cool if..." or "how did we do x to get to y before we had z, I'll never know!", the later is pending the former not unusual to be consigned to the dung heap of things time forgot.

Additionally, there are now people who have completely grown up in and live too much in cyberspace and cyberspace is actually retarding real space IMHO, the problems of cyberspace do not necessarily solve the problems of living space as much as they use to (mail > email). I think we're at a point where the things we engage and do are consuming more than it is now returning, and Ai is a clear milestone on that front.

Broad points, but here is the challenge, explain Acitivyt Pub in 20 maybe 30 words, within or not a NodeBB context, or both.

How about that as a challenge?

Finally the topic I’ve been waiting for.

Honestly.

Tbh. I have zoned out because of this and other non node related things.

I haven’t had time to distill APub and often refer back to my own past concepts that seemed to resemble activitypub to get my noodle around it.

So while I kinda get it I haven’t actually gotten into it.

Discourse has had it for sometime too but APub is disorientating, bottom line it’s like where do I start and why do I even start? What is or where is the problem it has solved? (As a user or site admin/owner)

If you can’t explain it in 20/30 words it will never gain mass appeal or adoption, if you can’t value it, it will remain invisible to the potential end user.

Even the responses (good contributions) but to my problem still can’t encapsulate it enough to simply answer the question, simply.

I had in early reaction to nascent implantation suggested, some UI changes to help with my own gut reaction to the interplay on community, but as time goes on I found the activity of activity pub really staring and amplify harmonies (theme) weak points to make skimming posts less appealing and of course life, and the times we live in too, getting in the way - Ah yea life that world outside but also the inner life too, perhaps the greater undiscovered country.

So let me see. How can it or what can Activity pub nested in NodeBB do to enable or enhance that journey?

Or are you actually (is NodeBB) on the right journey?