To say Israel has just been oppressing Palestinians for 75 years is reductionist and doesn't take into account any of the reasons for conflict over that time

Didn't that minister actually say the conditions weren't right at the time. And in Arafats place he wouldn't take the deal. Not that the deal was actually bad? And that's rhetorical, I'm 80% sure without actually pulling up the direct quote

A blockade is not necessarily an act of war. If attacks are being launched from part of your country and you block certain goods going into the region I'd hardly call that an act of war

Can you point at a time Hamas legitimately put forward a reasonable attempt to negotiate?

Are you dense? Do you think publicly funded heath care would reduce this? The two aren't connected directly

And I'm Australian lmao

Well that certainly works. At least in NA I guess. Not sure if we have an equivalent in my country but it'd make sense to set one up

I wonder if we could set up all your devices to get that data from something like radio/Bluetooth. Then have your router/small device just send out the time from ntp and all your devices can just accept the message

That way you don't need an internet connected microwave

I asked for your ideal system. I was saying further that communism would have a hard time here. But please do explain for market socialism/whatever you prefer

Sorry when I say business replace with whatever name you want for the organisation you'd replace it with. My point being, lets say I want a place that makes a new kind of product that I have an idea for. Now 10 other people have ideas for other products, not necessarily in the same sector If the market can't decide, and government doesn't exist. Then how do we decide what gets resources allocated? Do we do direct democracy?

I'm more interested in your system than communism though of course, as communism seems impractical

And please don't tell me "maybe you should talk to them or try to understand". I literally am, but communists seem far to quick to just say "capitalism bad" and call it a day, or somehow worse "I don't know how it'll work, we'll work that out after the revolution"

Right, but why do you require every person in the country to work under a co-op? Is it not enough to let them choose?

In your socialist society if a group of people agreed that they would like to set up businesses under a different model what would you do?

And further, if you're calling for an enormous change to the way we structure our economy then shouldn't you be able to articulate how that system will work?

How do you get your initial capital to start the co-op? Like you can't have investors, so is every worker required to buy in the the initial venture?

By the way you are entirely free to structure companies this way under a social democracy

Wait so what's your example of a functioning socialist state/economy? You mention the USSR, Maoist China, Cuba and the Chiapas. Which of these do you consider a success?

Isn't market socialism literally just a form of capitalism? Like if you still have markets and a profit incentive then you're not really socialist

Not saying that's bad, just thinking really it has always seemed to me like capitalism with a strong social safety net. Which to me seems ideal, just want to know if I'm missing something?

Do you have any data to back that up? It would be quite interesting

I don't think regulation is impossible to achieve, look at the EU. And what I am fairly sure of is you have better odds of passing regulation than replacing capitalism entirely

No it isn't. If you artificially price ammunition at 5k per round, and then the actual cost per round is say $1, which is pretty accurate for some cartridges. Now a black market dealer can manufacture at $1 sell at say $10 and still be a massive bargain but make 9x their investment

I'm not spinning anything. I want to know why you expect Israel to do all the work towards peace?

Do you expect Hamas to change nothing? Because I can't imagine telling Israel "hey we know these guys are firing missile after missile at you but can you please stop fighting back and let them continue"

Realistically the first move towards peace without continued conflict has to come from Hamas. Or Israel need to have removed Hamas completely, pick one