FediLore + Fedidrama

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Rules

  1. Any drama must be posted as an observer, you cannot post drama that you are involved with.
  2. When posting screenshots of drama, you must obscure the identity of all the participants.
  3. The poster must have a credible post and comment history before submitting a piece of history. This is to avoid sock-puppetry and witch hunts.

The usual instance-wide rules also apply.


Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)

Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.

Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama

Tags: fediverse news, lemmy news, lemmyverse

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!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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their instance is mastodon.hetzner.social View the post in sharkey (or another software that shows emoji reactions), https://calckey.world/@hetzner@mastodon.hetzner.social

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Can someone make a quick summary please? I just quickly read that fosstodon must be blocked because someone with relevance there is a nazi and not being kicked out or something

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/25042034

This post is "FYI only" for blahaj lemmy members. It is not a debate, and is not intended for non blahaj lemmy users to weigh in and offer opinions.

I recently received reports of a feddit.uk user espousing transphobia. Specifically, this was a feddit.uk user refusing to use the word cis, repeating the "adult human female" dog whistle, and claiming that trans women are not women. I approached a member of the feddit.uk admin team and raised my concerns and sought clarification of their stance on posts like this, where the transphobia is mostly dogwhistles, and "civil disagreement" on the validity of trans folk.

I was told by the feddit.uk admin that their preferred response is this kind of transphobia is to "sort it out through discussion and voting". However, the comments in question are currently more upvoted than downvoted, and little "sorting out" has occurred. The posts remain in place.

At this point, the admin stopped responding to my messages despite being active elsewhere on lemmy. When it became clear they were ignoring my messages and had no intention of removing the posts in question, I made the decision to defederate the instance.

I know some folk agree with the feddit.uk admins approach of pushback through discussion and voting, but this instance is not designed to be that kind of space. Blahaj lemmy is meant to be a place where we can avoid the rampant transphobia universally visible on nearly every other social media platform, and where we can exist without needing to debate our right to do so.

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Since the original is deleted, here is the old glorious lore. 💩

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cross-posted from: https://hackertalks.com/post/8713785

The instances being used are

  • lemmy.doesnotexist.club
  • chinese.lol

Here is an example of the coordinated downvoting https://hackertalks.com/post/8692093

Of course its a controversial user who got someone angry enough to automated downvoting @DonaldJMusk@lemmy.today

But you can see every post they make gets 53ish downvotes from these two instances, plus some organic ones after a few hours.

Current downvoting Accounts

bot-list

LightIsland@chinese.lol MagnificentRow@chinese.lol FondKnowledge@chinese.lol SillyTowel95@chinese.lol HelplessDear@chinese.lol SomberBrain@chinese.lol InexperiencedCloset@chinese.lol NecessaryPerson11@chinese.lol ClosedEmployment@chinese.lol CoarseHair420@chinese.lol BurlyChampionship49@chinese.lol ZigzagNatural@chinese.lol QuestionableDirt@chinese.lol ProudDeparture@lemmy.doesnotexist.club JoyousDouble@chinese.lol UnitedPatience@chinese.lol MajesticArea@lemmy.doesnotexist.club SinfulConference@chinese.lol MoralDivide96@chinese.lol LeadingCarry65@chinese.lol FrillyOpinion38@lemmy.doesnotexist.club LimitedDiscount49@lemmy.doesnotexist.club ForkedScreen@chinese.lol MediumChemistry13@chinese.lol xXxLawfulGrassxXx@lemmy.doesnotexist.club VisibleSentence@chinese.lol AcidicLawyer90@lemmy.doesnotexist.club PriceySink14@lemmy.doesnotexist.club ExcellentBeach@chinese.lol VivaciousNews@lemmy.doesnotexist.club LankyIndependent32@lemmy.doesnotexist.club SpeedyFault@chinese.lol ConcreteHall89@lemmy.doesnotexist.club WorthyPoint12@lemmy.doesnotexist.club SurprisedAdult99@chinese.lol FlashyCrack@lemmy.doesnotexist.club MasculineBeing@chinese.lol RichWeird@lemmy.doesnotexist.club DryCash97@lemmy.doesnotexist.club AuthorizedChair@chinese.lol SlimKiss@lemmy.doesnotexist.club AromaticRoof78@lemmy.doesnotexist.club BewitchedInterview@lemmy.doesnotexist.club ImaginaryDraw@lemmy.doesnotexist.club PertinentGround@chinese.lol SinfulAssumption@lemmy.doesnotexist.club AwkwardAnybody30@lemmy.doesnotexist.club UnwillingRestaurant@lemmy.doesnotexist.club InsubstantialOven@lemmy.doesnotexist.club

A individual user airing their personal biases and manipulating lemmy isn't good for the community, regardless of how you feel about their target. This is a really bad thing (tm)

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I am seeing posts from https://hexbear.net/ once again. Anyone know what happened since they lost their domain name? How did they get it back?

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Curious if anyone has the original Universal Monk comment handy.

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Another dust-up with Dansup lol...

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.crimedad.work/post/903768

The author of the article characterizes their findings as a vulnerability in Pixelfed, that it was treating all follow requests as approved. An update has already been released to make Pixelfed honor that setting, but the vulnerability still exists with ActivityPub in the feature itself. It gives users a false expectation of privacy, which is not safe.

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So, for clarification, I was named in the feud but was never actually in the actual feud and am an observer, and can absolutely prove I was offline 100% of the time (deleted Lemmy comments linger, so it's not like I am erasing any involvement). I just happened to get namedropped as collateral damage (on another occasion, so did the Ask Lemmy mod Candyman337 simply for keeping Leni around, and Candyman337 wasn't in the feud either, and they are welcome to testify too). As an observer, this only made me want to observe it more though.

The whole thing was mentioned on Reddit. Leni was asked at one point by a .world admin if she (the admin) could ask questions in her server which is visible on her profile (I kind of wish she could have asked mine back when it would have been useful to reveal who I am despite the dangers like she had hence her old avatar, but whatever). That admin got a lazy streak due to how complicated things got before the Blahaj admins were given the offer starting in the replies of another so-called exposé (a recurring theme is these exposés are false and can be proven false, e.g. Davel on his main account tries claiming in the replies on another such thread of theirs that she is impersonating a Beehaw user when Leni's full name has been established for years and that it's the Beehaw user who is impersonating Leni). I'm would be inclined to say they actually took the time to listen because they, the most uptight instance, came to the exact opposite verdict, as seen by the "exposer's" fate after this deceiver was encouraged by another person to "downvote, report, block", ironically to deal with Leni's supposed troublemaking alts (which doesn't hold weight given that Candyman337 was themselves accused of being her alt). You know what they say, when the hecklers have egg on their face, they ought to eat it.

Thank you for giving hope, Blahaj admins hugs the admins

Let's look at the positives though. I think it's really cool that the Wayback Machine is in the fediverse, as shown by the fact that the part of your username showing your instance turns into "web.archive.org" when viewed under the Wayback Machine.

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Matrix user of almost a decade here. A PluralKit-like project actually does exist, a friend/ former partner of Ours developed it.

They are no longer on Matrix, and We wish We could follow suit. Do not use Matrix, it is absolutely not a safe space for marginalized folks by any stretch of imagination.

We know this because We were the defacto head of the last public safe space that was left standing, a feat only accomplished by terribly dedicated helpers (mods) and programmers who would make custom tooling for that community. It wasn't enough.

See, not only is Nev Vector Inc. very corporate oriented, they're actively hostile to community contributions. You can loudly yell about flaws that are easy to abuse, or make full code submissions of things that have been hotly requested for years, and it will be entirely ignored, if it doesn't directly align with their corporate interests.

Right now most of those who remained are scattered in a new community that's bridged between Discard, which at least does something to prevent the worst cases of abuse, and Revolt, which is still a pretty basic project feature set wise, compared to Matrix and Discard, but you can tell that it's made with actual care, it's also EU based.


Yeah, this lines up with what we've heard from a number of other people, sadly... that Matrix has been more interested in pandering to cops, governments, and corporations rather than building safe and respectful tech for everyday people. And that yes, you could self-host, but that it's a nightmare that they have no intent of making easier because it would conflict with their managed hosting services. Not to mention ongoing issues with metadata and loopholes that can be used for abuse. Unfortunate.

https://www.reddit.com/r/plural/comments/1iyp159/encrypted_pluralkit/mf7v50f/

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Stay safe out there, folks

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alt textA screenshot shows a new linuxsucks community on the sh.itjust.works instance, a screenshot below it showing the moderator of the community getting banned five hours after its creation.

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It does not matter how calm or reasonable the comment is, if it's deemed to be in dissent of the Tankie mindset it's removed and you're banned

For context this next one ~~might have been~~ (have confirmed with Vitaly) was a comment to https://lemmy.world/post/26045579 (Crossposted version, original that was on .ml memes comm was removed as well so I can't pull up the original to pair the modlog entry to the post like I did for the first 2 screenshots)

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I've been interested to ask this after seeing so much happen in this community. How would you define a troll? The modlogs show many communities have rules against "trolling" but what is actually going on that makes it register with people.

I'm making an instance of my own and wanted to know. The last time I was on here, there was a drama about a mod which was based on another drama about the same mod, and this in turn was based on another drama about the same mod, which itself was based on a drama about that mod. That's a revelation with many implications I never see mentioned, that these are all connected (why isn't anyone mentioning this). I know this person, I know it's slander against her. Everyone called her a troll though for defending herself, which a few argue is in the same way a lot of people don't see issue with outright releasing private information.

I am a community owner and am on hiatus from helping out in another instance. I wanted everyone to know the person making the claims about her has been vetted and given the boot at least once, while the mod has been vetted and cleared of all suspicions, especially with it coming out now the people involved have compromised their agenda. I see he has gone on Shitter (linking to it only because XCancel is a mess and doesn't have a "sort by user replies" category system, which is an enormous oversight, and because this is someone who was praised on here with a hundred upvotes) to mass-slander-campaign against the person, as that's the sole bulk of their reply history. In a way, he even makes us look bad. These people are obsessed enough I understand the motives behind a previous question here that caused a lot of raised eyebrows. And that's not a troll? Is Shitter suddenly okay to reference again, considering the indifference with them? I'm eager to make it okay in my instance if it is.

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Lemmy doesn't like it when apologies :[

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Maven@lemmy.zip to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca
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This further proves the case that this post was talking about https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/14003044

Cross-posted from "We Need to Hold the LW Gatekeepers Accountable" by @Sunshine@lemmy.ca in !traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns@lemmy.ca


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A meme was posted to c/memes@lemmy.world with a partial picture of a driver's licence. The Lemmy users in the comments proceeded to post all the identifying information they could get from the license, including gender, date of birth, and zip code of the person's home. The meme is probably reposted and so this isn't doxxing the Lemmy OP, but that's what the users in the comments seem to think they're doing.

Collecting and disseminating someone's personal information is doxxing even if that information could be found anyway with enough time and knowledge.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca
 
 
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Hexbear's domain has expired and the admins can't get ahold of the original registar. Currently up for auction at 20 bids and $550.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca
 
 

Auction: https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/7073489/hexbear.net

Not sure what will happen, but seems to be a Fediverselore event for sure

Update: post from hexbear admin on chapo.chat: https://chapo.chat/post/4468531

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Anyone know if this is a glitch?

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