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Harris shuts down Trumpian ‘lock him up’ chants
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I'll respectfully disagree and agree at the same time.
2008 Obama? Hell yeah. But 2012 Obama was kind of a slow speaker. His debates against Romney were not shoe-ins. He wasn't as top tier amin his second term as he was in his first.
I uhhhhhhh... never really understood uhhhhhhhh... why Obama uhhhhhhhh... was uhhhhhhh... considered such a great orator. Sure he uhhhhhhh... could uhhhhhhh... clearly communicate a thought, but uhhhhhhh... it fucking took a while to uhhhhhhhh... get it out of his mouth.
This part is true. I think he just had a lot of charisma with it overall. Also, we had Bush Jr to compare him to, which makes anyone competent sound like a genius.
Hey dont insult me like that, I could make Bush look good on one of my bad days. I accidently started a fight in ny friend group yesterday cause I was playing CK2 and said the word gypsy.
Thank you, dude was the William Shatner of Uh. Now go watch Robert Kennedy announce the death of MLK. Or read one of Lincoln's speeches, or Cesar's. There were a lot of great speakers out their of varying ideologies. Its definitely a talent that is sorely needed in a lot of politics today.
I thought that “apes together strong” was powerful, but I’m not sure if I’d put him up there with Lincoln
Speeches don't include unintentional parts like "uh". And there was no recording of Caesar speaking.
Caesar also would shout one line at a time and wait for people to repeat it for the people father away. I'm sure it was awesome live, but an audio recording would sound very strange to a modern listener.
That's pretty cool, and it makes sense. I always wondered how people heard speakers back in the day. Thank you
A classical grammatical rule says: "A sentence must express a complete thought, be able to be written down, and speakable in one breath," which makes a hell of a lot more sense once you get the context of oration.
Interesting, because a lot of literature from 150 years ago breaks the hell out of that rule. Like authors were one upping each other to see how long they can get away with not using a period.
Yeah that's almost 2 millennia post-classical. Printing press had been around for 400 years at that point.
I went to a Bernie rally once and it was somewhat like that. Not with people repeating lines for the whole auditorium, of course, but lots of saying one line and then pause for applause.
Milan? The dog trainer? 😛
I always have to laugh at people who think him going over what he’s going to say before it comes out of his lips as he’s not good at speech.
Homie, he’s actually THINKING before he speaks. I know that might sound weird, but I for one think MORE people need to follow that way of talking.
Tl;dr
I always imagine the Epic Rap Battle with Obama vs Romey for Obama speech cadence.
“Well you’re stupid.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C22wBf2h5k
I remember very few quotes from Presidential or Vice Presidential debates. However Obama vs Romney had one of the most memorable ones:
"Please proceed, Governor."