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Oh no. Kurzgesagt just published a full-on TREACLES piece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa8k8IQ1_X0
These are the sources they cited: https://sites.google.com/view/sources-superintelligence/
I'm sure!
They’ve given me a strange vibe for a while. I suspected they might be in the TREACLES sphere, so I guess at least I finally have confirmation.
Also, the amount of “ChatGPT is basically AGI already” people in the comments is alarming.
They prob should do a video on this effect as shown by the early ELIZA experiments. That even the smartest people could get fooled by a dumb program. Doubt they will though if they are into EA stuff.
I still maintain that ChatGPT's main draw is as a Ouija board for weird nerds.
Yeah I'm not surprised. Kurzgesagt has always had that sort of forced, fragile, veneer of optimism and scientific inquiry that can only be described as "all I can imagine about the future I read about in the 60s".
@hrrrngh @froztbyte I was preeved about this, but was already starting to get sus because they've previously touched on Effective Altrusim positively (without using the term) and seem uncomfortably longtermist, which really does concern me given the figures and philosophies involved.
This is extra crap because I'd already introduce the channel to younger family members as a learning resource that I wouldn't have to fact-check to death, but apparently noooo.
Some 'scientists' cough Yud/Rob/Kokotajlo cough believe in FOOM. Anyways, let's not question this fundamental assumption so we can engage in fear baiting and mental masturbation for the remainder of our show. It's bonkers that people keep citing Kokotajlo as an AI researcher, like, I have serious doubts this man knows what a computer is. Pretty good at grifting though. Also why is Rob Miles still listed as a PhD student. Like cant he hurry up and fuckin graduate already? Christ.
As an aside, I remember watching a PBS space time and seeing sponsored by Open Philanthropy (or some other EA organization) and I was like no not my beloved PBS!! I know it feels :(
Fwiw, this is also why I -do- think it's important to talk more frankly about where science is moving towards ala things like FEP or scale free dynamics. An alternative story on things like what energy, computation, and participation really means, is useful, not for prescribing the future, but the opposite: putting ambiguity and the importance of participation back in it.
The current world view, that some how things are cleanly separated and in nice little ontological boxes of capability and shape and form, lead to closed systems delusions. It's fragile and we know it, I hope. Von Neuman's "last invention" is wrong because most, unfortunately, most "smart people's" view of intelligence has become reductive in liu of a bigger picture.
In addition to our sneers, we should want to tell a more robust story about all of these things.
Idea: a Pivot to AI video series hosted by an avatar that's, like, a talking polyhedron in the style of Mind's Eye/Body Wars era CGI.
This would require effort and thus is a terrible idea, but I find the mental image amusing.
using Hatsune Miku but with my voice would save on having to maintain a video setup
Thanks, this will be my dreams now for the rest of the month
we need to bring back machinima
I call dibs on being represented by the left pong paddle, lovingly recorded from the analog output of an Atari Pong TTL standup (or FPGA equivalent)
I've never heard of this outfit. Is it a sort of skepticsphere darling?
more a sort of 'I love science' youtuber I think.