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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Five@slrpnk.net to c/lgbtq_plus@lemmy.blahaj.zone

To clarify, the pictured poster Caroline Kwan is an ally, not a TERF. The TERFs referred to in the title are the ones ‘protecting a very specific idea of what a woman is’

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[-] p3n@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Yes. I think that this is the concern of everyone who is genuinely interested in fair competition. While I'm sure that some people are triggered ( in both directions ) by the transgender debate.

I mentioned in another thread that I think the simple solution to this is to not define divisions by gender, but to simply measure testosterone and have a high-T "open" division and a low-T division. This is where the perceived competitive advantage lies and sidesteps the whole gender issue entirely.

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

While sensible, is T really the only factor at play here? Once you get into the science where do you draw the line?

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 months ago

Realistically it probably depends on the sport. Y chromosomes, being exposed to certain levels of testosterone in utero (unless one is resistant or unresponsive to the hormone), being exposed to certain levels of testosterone in puberty and maintaining certain levels of testosterone all do things to the body than could effect performance and that's all still mostly just focused on the one hormone. How much each of those things has an impact (if any) is going to depend entirely on the nature of the sport in question.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Should Brittney Griner be tested for testosterone and then forced to play in the NBA if it's too high?

[-] SirNameHere@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

You can't tell how high someone is by measuring testosterone. Maybe you were thinking of the Toblerone test.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Cute weed joke considering it landed her in a horrific Russian prison as a queer woman, but also, I didn't say she was too high.

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[-] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago

And what of high testosterone people who are completely testosterone insensitive? Those are the women who have Y chromosomes

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