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I am currently an IOS user, however, as the title suggests, I wish to switch to android. This is because I would prefer to use free software and not be locked into the apple ecosystem. That being said I am already locked into apple and would like to know how anyone else here has managed the switch.

I for one know I will face problems regarding group chats with friends and family on IOS, I will lose out on iCloud+ features, I will have to buy a replacement for my HomePod, I will need to replace apple home, etc.

How did anyone else here who has made such a switch replace or solve these issues?

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[-] ProvokedGamer@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

What’s wrong with a green bubble? Just curious.

[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

IPhone users have a good reason to not like green bubbles in their group chats, because then their group chat loses functionalities like emojis and the ability to send large images. Or so I've heard.

Apple is obviously unwilling to solve that because the lock-in benefits them.

[-] Jumper775@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

That’s not all, as I currently use an iPhone I can tell you firsthand those are the least of your issues. When in a group chat with android users IOS users can’t add or remove people to or from the chat, iOS users don’t get any of the apple specific features like unsending, thread reply’s, reactions, even embedding things like links doesn’t work. The adding/removing people is the biggest issue however.

[-] nakal@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

I have never understood what this green bubble is. I thought it was plainly aesthetic. Now you both tell me Apple deliberately breaks stuff in an infectious way just because an Android user is around. Apple is evil. I will never buy any stuff from them.

[-] jerb@lemmy.croc.pw 12 points 1 year ago

That's because of a difference on protocol (iMessage vs SMS). This wouldn't matter if they chose to support RCS which is effectively the Android iMessage equivalent and is an open standard (on paper, not necessarily in practice) but that will never happen.

[-] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

It's sad that I will never really know about it. Because for some reason they never made Voice compatible with it. I only have 2 people I really text at all, and I use my voice number for everything, not my carrier number. I use the carrier number only for things that won't accept what they say it's a voip number. Even though that shouldn't have anything at all to do with their end of sending a message. I don't understand why they even check for that. It's not much of a problem, almost everything uses an app of some kind, I basically only get to see the actual texting app when the pharmacy says my medicine is ready to pick up. Voice number seems to work for pretty much everything else. (and by Voice number, I'm referring to Google Voice if you're unfamiliar)

[-] EdgeOfToday@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I know, and it drives me nuts when iPhone users complain that it's my fault for owning an android phone. Like um no it's quite literally your fault if you stick with Apple and defend their decision to make your life worse. Apple's business model is basically Stockholm syndrome.

[-] quicksand@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

The crazy thing is that RCS is entirely compatible with Apple. If they would refuse to develop for it and lock down their App store to keep 3rd party developers from making apps for it themselves

[-] deong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

RCS is not completely compatible. For one thing, it requires a carrier and a phone number. You can go out today, buy a Mac or an iPad with no cell modem, and start using iMessage purely as an IP messaging app. So they can't just replace the existing protocol with RCS, because RCS is a bag of flaming shit. They could spend the money to develop RCS fallback in addition to their protocol, and that would be awesome, but it costs them money, and I get why they don't want to do it.

The reality is that this is Google's fault more than anything. They spent half of my adult life repeatedly inventing and then fucking up the act of sending 200 bytes of text to one person at a time.

I'd love for the modern world to have a great way of messaging people that just worked -- used IP connections with SMS fallback, a login you could manage from anywhere, full support for all the real-time typing stuff, the rich media support, the whole thing. That would be great. Someone get on that. But if I have to listen to fucking Google whine about it one more time, I'm out. They're like a guy with one finger left. If you didn't know any better, you'd feel pretty sympathetic for him. But if you've spent the past two watching him slowly chop the other nine off one at a time with a hatchet and then whine about his bad luck for 12 hours after each chop, the sympathy starts to ebb a bit.

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