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I’m pro human which is why I’d rather have some people in office here in the US than others, and why I’m pro human rights.

Trans rights are human rights.

After reading criticism of the dems, this question resurfaced in my mind. I know we don’t have time machines, I know it’s easy to claim a false equivalency is being drawn. So note this question doesn’t represent reality. It represents a curiosity of a hypothetical.

Trans rights are human rights! Thank you.

PS: I hope neither this post nor its comments represent/produce any content that bad people will use to make arguments to further evil causes. Have I already erred? Yes I’m worried, I’m also curious enough to hit this post button here… gulp

alt text of featured screenshotImagine you have a time machine that lets you peek into the future, specifically the 2024 election. You can see two possible pathways:

Pathway 1: Democrats go all-in on trans rights.

They champion inclusive policies, fight for trans healthcare, and actively challenge anti-trans legislation. However, this galvanizes the opposition and they lose the election.

Pathway 2: Democrats stay completely silent on trans rights.

They avoid the issue entirely, focusing on other policy areas. This strategy helps them win the election, but trans rights are left in a vulnerable position.

The question is: which pathway would you choose?

Would you prioritize a Democrat win, even if it means sacrificing progress on trans rights? Or would you fight for trans rights, even if it means risking a loss?

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[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This post feels a little like bait, but that said:

To me, this is not even a question. It doesn't feel great to say, but the only correct response is to choose Pathway 2. There's a lot of things at stake in this election but one of the things on the chopping block if the GOP wins is trans rights. We've seen what they do when they have full control (look at Florida - that's their vision for the whole country); securing a win for them just to maintain a moral high ground on this one issue will only make things worse for trans people. Trans rights being left "in a vulnerable position" is far better than trans rights being eliminated completely. That's not even taking into account any of the other problems this would cause.

Anyone choosing Pathway 1 is not thinking through the ramifications of their choice. That said, it's a stupid premise for a discussion, for exactly the above issue. For there to be an interesting moral dilemma, there has to be a dilemma, and there's only one here if you're not thinking about it past the surface.

To be clear this is purely in response to a hypothetical and I'm not in any way suggesting actually taking that course of action in reality. I in no way believe there's enough single-issue swing voters for the democratic party being pro-trans-rights to make a lick of difference in the actual outcome.

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