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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago

Politicians will always disappoint you. There will always be things left undone, done poorly, or done in a way you disagree with. Everybody needs to get used to this and learn we vote for the least bad, not the most good.

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Politicians will always disappoint you. There will always be things left undone, done poorly, or done in a way you disagree with. Everybody needs to get used to this

Why?

Why does everyone have to get used to and just blindly accept that the system is shit and doesn't serve them or make their lives any better?

Why are you so comfortable settling for so little?

Why don't you want better for yourself, and worse, think you get to demand the same of others?

(I don't need your answers, these are all for you and those who agree with you to ask yourselves)

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago
  1. This is an imperfect world.

  2. Democracy is necessarily the function of creating coalitions of compromise between literal millions of people, all with different interests and concerns.

  3. Politicians, as a career, self-select for ambition and ego, and that comes with certain implications in even the best of them.

  4. Jesus fucking Christ, is it really so little to not want to die or see my friends and family horribly oppressed?

[-] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 2 months ago
[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

No intermediate steps allowed, no development of material conditions, no war of maneuver. Hole in one or don't play.

[-] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 2 months ago

This is my strategy for anything artistic... drawing, music, painting, anything like that.

If I'm not getting offers from the Louvre 30 minutes in... is there really any point at all?

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[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

yeah i too just free hand an entire bridge in one go, no mathematical checking, or double checking anything, i don't even get someone else to overlook it, i just wing that shit one handed!

[-] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I'm not looking for the People's Democratic Equitocracy, I'm looking to save the United States from its own folly. It's just one nation. All the U.S. has to do is stop the arms shipments.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Plus getting upset about this shit is fucking exhausting.

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[-] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Look, I will tick the Kamala box. I do indeed believe that Trump is a bad candidate and will oppress many people. But I don't want people to feel like this shit is normal. Back in the late 1970's to the 1990's, nobody would have thought that both parties would end up supporting the same genocide, with one being a little less pumped. Or maybe even the 2000's, when the War on Terror was thought to be conducted humanely. We have lived in an imperfect world before, along with millions of people, and politicians self-selecting for ambition and ego, and there was nobody calling to wipe an ethnicity off the face of the Earth. I'm not surprised at the Dem party, I'm surprised that there are fascists in the White House and I'm supposed to just accept it as a normal part of democracy. Well, I won't! Both parties in the United States supporting a genocide requires voting to solve, but it's purely abnormal! I'm not wanting a world any better than a world we used to have, one where the United States did not conduct ethnic cleansing!

We live in a nation with the Internet, fast food wherever you go, products that arrive at your door when ordered, touchscreens, full 3D videogames, V-Tubers, the Moon Landing, nuclear reactors, and the White House lighting up in rainbow colors to support LGBT+ rights--yet when asked to stop a genocide, it's suddenly too much to ask. I would give up so much of these fleeting pleasures to protect human lives. Should I just become a lotus-eater, and neglect the outside world to "act humane"?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Back in the late 1970’s to the 1990’s, nobody would have thought that both parties would end up supporting the same genocide, with one being a little less pumped.

Man, I can absolutely cite examples of both parties supporting genocides in that time period.

Well, I won’t! Both parties in the United States supporting a genocide requires voting to solve, but it’s purely abnormal! I’m not wanting a world any better than a world we used to have, one where the United States did not conduct ethnic cleansing!

I... would count myself as an American patriot, but I'm pretty sure the US not committing ethnic cleansing is an extremely recent phenomenon.

We live in a nation with the Internet, fast food wherever you go, products that arrive at your door when ordered, touchscreens, full 3D videogames, V-Tubers, the Moon Landing, nuclear reactors, and the White House lighting up in rainbow colors to support LGBT+ rights–yet when asked to stop a genocide, it’s suddenly too much to ask. I would give up so much of these fleeting pleasures to protect human lives. Should I just become a lotus-eater, and neglect the outside world to “act humane”?

Man, if you want to pour all your time and energy into this cause, unironically, go for it. But part of understanding just how vast and fucked the world is also requires one to accept and understand that we can't fight every battle simultaneously. Hell, most battles aren't even our's to fight. And no amount of martyrdom from an individual can change either of those things. I've been calling the Israeli genocide for what it is for years now. I'm not exactly sitting here telling you to shut up about it. But we have to be realistic both about what we can achieve and about what we will sacrifice to achieve it.

You could sacrifice every waking moment of your life, every meal above the level of gruel, every social connection and personal property unrelated to the cause, all for the sake of a .0001% contribution to ending another country's genocide, but the onus shouldn't be on you to kill yourself to correct every sin in the world. At some point, it's not on you or me as individuals.

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

is it really so little to not want to die or see my friends and family horribly oppressed?

well i mean it depends on what you mean by this, you will inevitably die, so, idk how you plan on getting around that one. Oppression is an incredibly broad and complex topic, or the simplest of them with no indirect explanation. The answer is the same though, do shit to change public sentiment.

[-] papertowels@lemmy.one 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In what world will a politician never disappoint you?

I'm generally in full control of myself and even I disappoint myself - fringe third party candidates are not the political messiah some people think they are.

[-] How_do_I_computah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I don't understand how this is the argument against third party. Why does the candidate need to be the Messiah to be better than Kamala?

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[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

Why?

even if it goes perfectly, you'll be left wanting more.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Cuz it's democracy. If you wanted someone to be in office who would get everything done with no obstacles no roadblocks and no delays then you wouldn't be looking at democracy you'd want a dictator. You can want that if you want but just be honest about it.

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[-] Ohi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago
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[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The only politician who won't disappoint you on every issue is yourself. Run for office. No joke. Use your rights. Vote. Speak. Run for office.

Not using those rights is functionally the same as not having them.

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