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submitted 2 months ago by atro_city@fedia.io to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

No more men's and women's league, no more "gender eligibility" requirements, a common dresscode, same standards and rules for all.

Edit: since it looks like people missing the word let: the suggestion isn't to force desegregation. It's to allow it or even make it the default. Someone else made a good suggestion: segregate by attributes specific to the sport. In boxing it's weight class, in basketball it could be height, in biking it could even be doped and non doped. Sex and gender need not be the very first thing to segregate by.

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[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Which sports do you watch both men and women play?

Soccer is the one I do most frequently. My local men's MLS team would walk through the Canadian women's team. The men can just kick it much farther and harder, run faster, take dangerous shots from farther out and that's not to mention the physicality. And the Canadian women's team is one of the top 10 or so in the world. (And MLS is several steps down from any of the serious leagues from which most national men's teams are drawn.)

Not even going to look at a more physical sport like hockey.

I already posted comparing men and women's times at the Olympics, but to reiterate, the gold winning woman came in slower than the bare minimum men's time to qualify to run at the Olympics, in the 10k race, literally every one of the racers beat the women's world record... (stats you saw but conveniently did not respond to.)

Does that answer your question?

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago

Does that answer your question?

No, it doesn't answer if it'll be the same for all sports. As others have pointed out archery, shooting, curling, and other sports have men an women competing either separate or together and women can compete at the same level.

As for football, yes, there's a good chance there'll be stark differences, but as I pointed out in another comment, not every sport is about raw strength. And, competing against stronger opponents can also raise your ceiling. How far is of course yet to be seen because we don't have mixed leagues.

And again, the suggestion isn't "NO MORE SEGREGATION EVER" it's "should we let them compete against each other". That means there'll be a mixed and segregated league. Maybe even, as somebody else suggested, the segregations wouldn't always be immediately by sex or gender, but by attributes that make sense in that sport e.g weight, muscle mass, height, skill, and so on.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Your question blurb literally says "no more men and women's leagues, no more gender requirements."

That is not compatible with segregated leagues.

It really seems like you didn't know that some sports men and women already play against each other and some they don't and are now trying to argue for a bizzarely complex system rather than admit that hey, you hadn't thought something through or you didn't know something.

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