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Oh, that.. I think i'm using it but it seems.to expect a response from 80 when all I have there is a redirect to 443.
I thought you meant an nginx plugin.
I have auto redirect to 443. But --nginx works fine. I think it overrides stuff for whatever the specific url used is.
Yes you need both 80 and 443 for certbot to work. Anyway having 80 to redirect to 443 is common and not a security risk.