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Fucking love this comment. If only we could charge people for being ignorant, or willfully dumb, or just racist. Amazing how folks wanna throw their individual right to free speech away instead of holding "news" corporations accountable. One is much easier to do and has actual precedent, the other being a collapse of our democracy.
From my understanding, and please, someone correct me:
Hate speech has to be tied to a crime. If you knock someone's mailbox over it's destruction of property, if you do it while yelling a racist phrase at the person then it may be considered a hate crime which depending on the state can carry additional, often heavier punishment. Racism isn't illegal, just bad taste.
As far as American free speech is concerned, outside of inciting violence or injury (rallys that turn violent, yelling fire in a movie theater) you can pretty much say whatever the fuck you want... Unless it's towards a corporation or rich person who can sue you into the floor for years debating your use of "satire, irony, fantasy, parody" if they kinda choose to. Legal system is beyond fucked, and with all the deep fake shit coming and going it's most likely give more power to these kinda cases. Also, it feels like there's a rise both legally and socially for thought crimes. A whole new bag of fun.
Edit: Obviously, threatening someone with violence is indeed illegal. Can't tell folks you're going to kill them.
I'd love a list of examples by country and their specificities? If not it just feels like you're saying, "your free speech is too free"?
Yeah, that's pretty general. If you'd like to pick a country and a few example cases I'd love to actually be specific. Burden of proof on the prosecution? Can I just say my neighbor said racist shit and they go to jail? Context? Set list of phrases/words? Past precedent and public opinion? Warnings vs fines? Etc?
Pretty sure a lot of these places let a lot of questionable people gather and say a lot of questionable shit publicly without any consequence. Not just the US.
Bro, you haven't even made a fucking point. Get out of here with this fucking bullshit. You obviously can't explain much of anything outside of how you "feel" about these things. You showed your age with the "racism was non-existent", obviously haven't been around for too long. Never used the word extremist, but honestly it's not bad. Yeah, every country has them.
Do me a favor, and try to only reply to comments where you actually have a fucking point. You're gumming up the works for the people looking to have actual discussions.
Fuck you.
And there it is! Glad we could boil it down to your superiority over AmErIcA. Fucking nationalists.
Glad to see the rest of the world is just as fucking stupid as the majority of this country.
You challenged my response, I questioned your stupid premise and asked for actual fact, you couldn't provide (probably due to your laziness, you'd probably fit in better here than you'd like to believe...) a single point of argument except your feelings. Learn what debate and conversation actually resemble, or don't, you'll fit right in with the masses.
Fuck off and get back to class, yah twat.