OpenAI does not want you delving into o1 Strawberry’s alleged “chain of thought” (pivot-to-ai.com)

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago

the reason to pick Chinese may be racist (possibly due to the writing system looking complicated) but the thought experiment itself doesn't have racist connotations imo, and i don't think it's stupid either. doesn't have to involve Chinese or a specific language at all.

it's a logical question to ask: if i can mimic speaking in a language to a point that it convinces native speakers, but don't understand what I'm saying myself, am I considered a genuine speaker of that language? does what i say matter or have any value?

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago

well it appears like you’re posting english, but actually you’re posting nonsense

so the answer to your question is no

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago

Scientists: weird, we didn’t slip this piece of paper saying “mansplain the chinese room thought experiment” through the door, and yet that’s all the room seems to want to do. I guess we just have to conclude the room is an idiot?

[+] pyre@lemmy.world -8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

what an unnecessarily aggressive comment. mansplain? am i even responding to a woman? also i wasn't trying to explain it; i was saying the central question doesn't have to involve a specific language at all and it still a worthy question, especially with all this AI bullshit being pushed all over.

[-] self@awful.systems 11 points 2 months ago

mansplain? am i even responding to a woman?

christ

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 2 months ago

the brave pyre, of lemmy dot whirled, researching whole new levels of replyguy

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago

Enter these into your data banks, you automaton:

The chinese room was brought up as a tangent to a tangent, why are you doubling down on mansplaining it?
nobody was even talking about whether or not it is a good or bad concept, we were just talking about the problematic dude that made it popular
you are in a space that is critical of AI. The chinese room was brought up by name. You think we don’t know what it is and that you need to explain it?
literally all you had to do to seem even remotely reasonable was to not try mansplain AGAIN and yet you did. I wrote what I said as a joke and you went ahead and turned it into prophecy. You buffoon!!!

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