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Kyle Rittenhouse texts pledging to ‘murder’ shoplifters disillusion his ex-spokesperson
(www.theguardian.com)
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I think the double jeopardy thing should be modified somehow to allow re-prosecution
While great in this application, overall this is an extremely shit idea. Do you really think the same court that let the dipshit go wouldn't abuse the change by trying the poor and minorities over and over until charges stick?
Life is complicated, think through the consequences of your ideas.
Edit: spelling
And not just the poor and minorities. Trump apparently had the DOJ go after people he perceived as disloyal or political enemies, costing them millions of dollars in legal fees. Imagine if the government then just got a redo whenever it wanted. Even for a fairly wealthy person, that's going to be a potent tool to silence them.
I think it's a good idea that you're nowhere near the decision-making aparatus.
Tell me how you love Kyle without telling me you love Kyle.
Pretty big leap in logic there.
Sometimes a new trial is allowed if new evidence comes to light. But I'm guessing that this was known evidence that was suppressed by the judge.
It's not evidence of anything. Actions speak louder than words. The actions he took that day directly contradict any stated intention to shoot anyone. He used his weapon as a literal last resort all 3 times, when not doing so would have meant forfeiting his own life.
Textbook self-defense.
He created the situation he needed to escape from. That's textbook offense. You don't get to create confrontation and call it defense.
Extinguishing a fire is not provocation or confrontation.
Crossing state lines specifically to confront protestors with a deadly weapon very much is.
You mean traveling one town over, where he used to work and where his dad lives, an area he had exponentially greater ties to than any of the people who attacked him did?
Gee, wonder why you don't say it that way. Could it be because you're trying to make it sound like he traveled far out of his way to an unfamiliar area, because that helps your narrative about him 'being where he doesn't belong' (while conveniently not considering whether any of his attackers 'belonged' there)? Hoping that the technically-true "cross state lines" obscures the fact that he lived on the border of the other state?
You're absolutely transparent. Don't try this disingenuous garbage on someone who knows the facts and knows about your pathetic rhetorical maneuvers.
He confronted literally no one. And no, existing while armed in a state where open carry is legal doesn't count.
He wasn't even counter-protesting!
Do you know what "confront" means?
Funny we have him on text saying that's what he was doing and on video doing exactly that.
I don't think I'm the one in need of a dictionary.
Oh wow at first I completely missed the totally original claim that the protestors weren't from the area. Tell Fox news I said hi.
Lie. I defy you to link to that video, with timestamp, of him "doing exactly that".
It's not a 'claim'. It's a fact.
It's already a really bad standard. There's people who have had the same trial 4 times and there was more than reasonable doubt as to their guilt. If the prosecutor wanted to try Rittenhouse again he could have. And loosening this standard will only make it easier to put innocent people in prison.
No more than are already in there. We could try people like OJ again.
Sure we would... We can't even keep from executing innocent people in the current system and you want to make it easier to convict innocent people.
I suppose that’s one lens to look at it with.
Why don’t we just stop prosecuting crimes altogether? Seems like the best way to prevent innocent people from being convicted.
Don't be disingenuous.
Don’t shift the topic and I won’t. Kyle needs to go to jail. This is just OJ. Guilty as fuck.
Welcome to 1950s America, conservative judges and juries bending over backwards to let white murderers walk. If we break the Justice system to counter them though they don't lose. They win. They will use that to cause even more havoc on the poor and minority victims the police serve up.
Like you said, it has been going on for over 74 years. Time to change it. Thanks for agreeing.
I'm not agreeing with you. You can't just choose this one or that one to use expanded powers on. That's going to be up to local judges and prosecutors. The same ones still trying to destroy minority communities. That's who you'd be giving these powers to, not some super team of untouchables.
So what is your proposed solution? Or are you one of those people who just complains about inequality for the feeling.