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aww, does the widdle app's business model collapse completely once it can't harvest data? how sad
this reinforces a suspicion that I've had for a while: the only reason most people put up with any of this shit is because it's an all or nothing choice and they don't know the full impact (because it's intentionally obscured). the moment you give them an overt choice that makes them think about it, turns out most are actually not fine with the state of affairs
@froztbyte @jwz Not the biggest Apple fan, but you got to give them credit: with privacy changes in their OSs, they regularly expose all the predatory practices lots of social media companies are running on.
@fleg @froztbyte @jwz There's also the possibility that Apple is doing this for themselves, for example, I bet iMessage still has access to all contacts?
That has been Apple's model for a long time. Privacy restrictions for thee in my walled garden, but I am the benevolent overlord that sees all.
Still, in the current system Apple is the only thing holding back the floodgates? If there was no Apple in the committee to tell Google to go fuck themselves on their insane browser proposals we'd all be stuck in the all-encompassing Google walled garden. It's better for us to have two monarchs battling it out than one insane absolutist.
I have no idea what could be done to break this walled bullshit altogether, though, much less what any of us individually could do. Like a completely open-source (both software and hardware) smartphone that is actually usable and multiple bank robberies to finance marketing and sales for it?
@bullspit @froztbyte @jwz Well, it‘s the „SMS“-app on iOS, so it should have access to the contacts?
I believe they made their bet on privacy (since competing on features, UX and especially price is a loosing game).
@fleg @froztbyte @jwz Yes, the "Only" allowable SMS app which also happens to replace SMS with rich and secure instant messaging, as long as you own an Apple device.
I believe Apple play the Privacy card as it's their best excuse to reduce intraoperatively and maintain their lockin/walled garden under the disguise of "we care about your privacy" (and don't want to compete on features, UX an especially price)
@bullspit @fleg @froztbyte @jwz That's not the only reason: Apple is still very largely a hardware manufacturer, and given that Android is a freebie *from an advertising company that wants to harvest everyone's personal data* it was an easy way for Apple to differentiate themselves from the rest of the smartphone duopoly.
@bullspit @froztbyte @jwz Agreed. Let’s see what the EU will do about that.