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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21396125

Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

absolutely is unless there is a plan to replace the system. hence all of my original points around her lack of coherent plans that address actual needs of the people.

You read the party platform of PSL. PSL has coherent plans.

breaking the current system without sound ideas on how the new system will operate is destruction for destruction sake.

That isn't what's happening.

breaking the current system without sound ideas on how the new system will operate is destruction for destruction sake.

You keep arguing against strawmen.

I dont need to, those are my opinions you can take or leave them as you will. or just watch the election play out and get your answer. =)

That's fine, you just have no coherent plans for establishing Socialism.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

you're welcome to link to resources. I checked out her campaign site it wasn't interesting and i explained why each point will fail. I dont particularly care to spend my time beyond that digging to decide if she was is worth my time, determined she isn't. The campaign site is incoherent as far as plans go. if you want to goal post shift to PSL in general feel free to do so and i'll tell you what i think but otherwise. 🤷 if you want support you need to do the effort to earn it. ;)

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago
[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 hours ago

quick scan looks like a non-starter for me but good luck! anything where economy is centrally managed is a horrible idea, and something marx got very wrong its essentially what we have now just with a different person in charge. 🤷

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

What a fantastic way to say you have no idea what Marxism is, nor how Socialism is different from Capitalism. Consider reading Why Public Property?

Central Planning is the only way forward.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 minutes ago

because I dont give a shit about marxist. its mostly nonsense. he identified the root problem but failed to understand human nature or how to build robust economies/systems. just because you're blinded doesn't mean every socialist is as foolish. centralized planning is what we have today in late stage capitalism, and its what caused communist societies to collapse under the corruption then foster. like i said good luck in your idealistic vision it'll never work because its inflexible and misses the point.

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