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Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

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[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 3 points 1 hour ago

Context:

  • I am not an american, so there may be some missing knowledge for me about the american electoral system.
  • I abhor Israel's genocide in Gaza, and I abhor the biden administration's support of (and Harris' seeming continued support of) the genocide.
  • My understanding is that Trump is just as, if not more supportive of the genocide in Gaza, and on top of this has his sights on doing some truly terrible things in the US re: minorities, trans rights, etc

So with that context, my question is thus: It seems clear that Trump wouldn't change anything about the genocide in Gaza, and that he would bring more evil that the current status quo. So if you're an american voter, you obviously can't let Trump get in. But, Harris is gross to vote for as well, even if its a "lesser of the two evils" thing. What do you do? As far as I understand its basically one or the other, you dont really have any third party to vote for right?

[-] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Cant blame them, Biden\Harris are literally sending Israel the bombs.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 14 points 7 hours ago

Because Trump who literally said Muslims should wear a "Special ID at all times" back in 2015 is obviously gonna be much better....

[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Read the article. Maybe half or more are voting third party, they hate trump and kamala.

The other, from one of the interviews, the last four years of Democrat led politics has literally been the worst in their lives for both themselves living in america, and for their friends and families who live in the middle east.

Assuming a democrat leader is best for everyone is part of the problem. There are groups of people who suffer under Democrat leadership, and ignoring them is just frustrating them.

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

sorry, Russian plants, people know Trump will not only give Israel MORE weapons and NOT call for cease fires but will probably also send US troops. nobody's dumb enough to think they're "the same"

https://www.kktv.com/video/2024/03/01/biden-calls-immediate-cease-fire-gaza/

and

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/03/07/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news

And now

President Biden told the Israeli leader that airstrikes that killed aid workers were “unacceptable” and appeared to condition future support on how Israel changes course. https://archive.ph/t5tIi

Meanwhile the alternative

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-israel-finish-problem-gaza-1234981038/

The whole "Kamala is bad because Israel" line is so absurd compared to Trump that it really must be Russian propaganda.

[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

There is a perspective that the genocide will be the same under both. Maybe a few months ago, but bidens since stopped asking for a cease fire, and has literally sent troops to israel to defend them already.

Its less about voting for trump and more about how increasingly unpalatable its become for some to endorse the current administration. For example in Michigan, a lot of people in the third party movement have family overseas, and its hard to argue to them that they should care more about the theoretical distopia being shouted at them versus the very real one they have been living for a while now.

Put yourself in someone else's shoes for once.

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 0 points 30 minutes ago

If I didn't care I wouldn't comment. The perspective is materially absurd. Just because you can only change degrees doesn't mean you can morally abdicate your responsibility to do so.

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