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The current extremist government in Israel knows exactly what they need to do to stop Hamas and Hezbollah from continuing to attack Israel, they just don't want to. They'd rather continue to create the conditions for extremism so that these attacks can be used as justification to finish their genocide.
At this point we know that if you keep an entire group of people poor and oppressed with no prospect of economic opportunity or achieving a viable state, they become easier to recruit into a terrorist group. What have they got left to lose? Why NOT grab a rocket and attack your oppressors? This is why international law doesn't allow the creation of stateless persons...
Israel could STOP settlement expansion into the West Bank, first and foremost. They could start complying with international law and internationally recognized borders. They could stop working AGAINST a two state solution.
Maybe the Israelis could stop assassinating their own leaders when they work towards peaceful solutions. They could also stop radicalizing their own youth and defense forces to believe that the only solution is to exterminate the Palestinians.
There is a whole range of things that they could do... I wonder why they don't?
What they need to do to stop Hamas and Hazbollah from attacking them is to eliminate them entirely.
I don't think you understand that the continued existence of groups who's only purpose in life is to kill a specific subset of people CAN NOT be allowed to exist. They CAN NOT run a state, they CAN NOT be expected to honor any sort of peace treaty.
I'm not blind. I know damn well Israel is committing atrocities during the war. The problem is that the people they're fighting against are worse than them, so it only makes sense to support Israel until these terrorist groups are dead and gone.
Where did all these evil people come from? Is it possible that Israel's actions are just going to create even more and worse terrorist groups? Or you think the surviving children will grow up and look kindly on Israel for killing their parents and destroying their homes?
You would rather take your chances with the terrorists that already stated they want to genocide all Jews... Because the alternative is that some of their children might have the same viewpoint in the future?
Wow what a tough choice.
How about stop creating terrorists? These people attack the rest of us too. Is the Israeli plan just to kill every Arab in the region?
Damn what a good idea. Stop creating terrorists. Please tell us how you plan to do that!
I'm sure your answer surely isn't "Well just go back to Israel getting rockets launched at them every day but they aren't allowed to retaliate!"
"Just let another October 7th massacre happen. But they aren't allowed to retaliate!"
I'm sure eventually the terrorists will just give up or something right?
Genuinely though, if you have a better answer I'm all ears because I haven't heard of one yet and I would love to look for better options.
Well, you already ignored the part about ceasing illegal settlements, supporting a two-state solution, etc... so you're just proving my point that Israel isn't interested in a peaceful solutions, they just want to use the entirely predictable terrorist attacks as a blank check to complete their genocide.
Are you kidding me? You think that if Israel left the West bank and Gaza alone that Hamas and Hezbollah would stop attacking them? Am I misunderstanding you right now? Please say yes.
No, I'm sure you're right and children in Gaza are just born evil with rocket launchers in their hands. I'm sure their disposition towards Israel is in no way the fault of religious Zionists in Israel who describe them as animals and treat them as such. I'm sure Hamas and Hezbollah would still be able to convince the children of Gaza to sign up to to launch rockets at Israel even if those children had adequate access to food, water, trade, and sovereignty.
Oh wait, actually that's total bullshit that makes no sense and you know it. You know Israel is either fully or partially to blame for the conditions that make it so easy for terrorist groups to recruit these people. If a bunch of religious zealots showed up to take my land and kill my family, I'd be the first one to shove a rocket up your ass too.
You do think that they would stop attacking. I cannot imagine being that naive. Dude you're advocating for religious zealots that wish for the death of an entire ethnicity.
Do you think that Christian children in the deep South with grow up to be loving and tolerant of gay people because they aren't being actively harmed by them? Or does history teach us that generational hate that is taught by their parents - unless challenged at an early age - will make them just as hateful as the people that raised them?
We don't live in some asinine world where everyone plays by the golden rule. If you genuinely think that these terrorist groups would change their tune if Israel just left the West bank and Gaza or even started actively supporting a two state solution then I have an incredible bridge to sell you.
It would be so nice to live in this black and white world that you and the extremists both live in. To the rest of the world, the religious Zionists and Hamas are BOTH religious zealots that wish for the death of an entire ethnicity.
I'm not advocating for Hamas or Zionists, I'd like the US government to stop supporting genocide. It seems like a pretty simple concept that Israelis don't understand.
If you have a group of desperate people with nothing to lose, those people are easy to recruit by terrorists.