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Estimating the Death Toll of the War on Gaza
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Oh yeah cause the genocidal intent hasn't been shown over and over again through the public statements put out there by sitting members of the Israeli government. We must all suffer from collective amnesia.
Comments by extremists in the immediate aftermath of a traumatic terror attack don't establish genocidal intent. The actions over the past year clearly aren't in line with those comments.
"immediate aftermath"
They're still making those comments up to this day. They're even attending conferences on settling Gaza where expelling Palestinians from their ancestral lands is a commonly discussed and widespread idea, which in turn constitutes ethnic cleansing and in combination with their statements and actions can amount to genocide.
I won't discuss why water is wet. The fact that Israel is committing a genocide has been discussed by various UN officials, ICC officials, and experts on genocide. Go argue with them.
I don't give a crap what has been "discussed" - the facts clearly show that they aren't committing genocide. The world knows what an actual genocide looks like.
"""the world""" aka the five countries fueling the genocide with their own separate set of """facts"""
You missed my point.
The world knows what genocide looks like because we've seen it. And it looks nothing like what is happening in Gaza.
You seem to talk for the entire world. I wonder who put you in charge.
What are you, 10 years old?
Look, I'm not the one talking about the entire world holding my own personal opinion here.
Sir, your president is quoted in the genocide case (South Africa vs Israel) as one of the inciters to genocide.
First of all, he's not my president. I'm not Israeli.
Second, comments made by certain people in the immediate aftermath of a traumatic terror attack aren't proof of genocidal intent. He has clarified his position since then.
Also, have you ever wondered why South Africa of all countries brought the case to the ICJ? Do you think it has anything to do with the fact that they entertained Hamas leaders as visiting dignitaries a month before they submitted the case?
Ah, you classify Hamas as a terrorist organisation.... Since South Africa regards Hamas to be a resistance movement (and this is the position of most of the world), coordinating with them would be sensible.
LOL, it is not the position of most of the world that Hamas is a resistance movement. It is only the position of radical Islamists and Western leftist anarchists.
They are an organization that formed for the purpose of committing genocide and they have been responsible for the barbaric murder of thousands of civilians. They are as terrorist as you can get.
By the way, there is mounting evidence that support among Gazans for peaceful coexistence with Israel is much higher than previously thought. Evidence, for example, that Hamas has been fudging the numbers on their surveys that show otherwise, recent surveys that show much more positive results, and with the death of Sinwar and damage to Hamas, Gazans are starting to speak out against them. If that is indeed true, it destroys the whole "resistance" and "decolonization" narrative since they wouldn't actually represent the people for whom they claim to be resisting.