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YouTube? Deleted comment. Twitter? Banned, Reddit? Shadow banned and blocked Xbox live? You get kicked out online mode despite you are PAYING for it. You can't express your anger or hate towards other people without some kind of freedom.

No I'm not saying that RACISM or serious accusations should be allowed, but a simple "fuck u" gets you eliminated. Is depressing.

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[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The idea is to have freedom of expression AND to exercise it intelligently. It isn't an either-or. Or it shouldn't be.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sure. thats not what OP is saying in their post though

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's implied. Nobody wants assholes.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

just swearing at someone isn’t expressing it intelligently though

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space -1 points 5 months ago

Sometimes it is. It depends.

[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Most people generally consider those who habitually reach for "fuck you" to be assholes.

Perhaps that's the problem.

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Most of the people that I've met who habitually reach for "fuck you", frame it as a question or an argument. Which is arguably worse. And somewhat common. Well, common in the conversations that I like to have.

[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And yet it seems most people avoid spaces that have the conversations you like to have.

Here, try an experiment. Run a Lemmy server with the rule that you can say what you like within the bounds of law. See how many users come to your space. I'll bet for sure you'll be bigger than even lemmy.world what with all the people who want to habitually reach for "fuck you" that are being so unnecessarily repressed by so-called civil society!

You'll sure show us, won't you!

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

See, now you are saying "fuck you", and framing it all snarky, "You’ll sure show us, won’t you!". That's actually worse than "fuck you".

I think that the problem might actually be bullshit. There's a ton of "fuck you" going around but it's disguised, so it can't be rationally addressed, but we still feel it, the awfulness, so to escape the awfulness we subconsciously slide into these safe conversations, where conflict and the invisible yet toxic fallout don't exist. But the safe conversations are not very satisfying.

[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So you're saying that a Lemmy instance that will let anybody casually reach for profane abuse isn't going to succeed?

Wow. What an own goal!

Please do go on. Just go on without me. It's pretty clear you're exactly the kind of person I dropped Twitter over (and the kind of person that had me never even bother with festering pools of dysentery effluent like Reddit). We shan't be talking again.

[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 months ago

(P.S. Please do go on a binge of downvoting all my posts. You'll sure show me with that! I won't even slightly hold it up as a badge of honour, I promise!)

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 0 points 5 months ago

You are saying "fuck you" like 3 times there. I can see how you might feel cynical.