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[-] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 17 points 1 day ago

Conversely, at most 68 million people voted for Harris. That means roughly 270 million people either didn't vote or voted for fascists, which means they're either so disenfranchised they couldn't vote, are idiots, were scared for their livelihoods and lied to (meaning they're still idiots, but at least they're also cowardly), or are fascists themselves.

I don't know when we'll learn, but given our ever-deteriorating education system I don't think it'll be anytime soon.

[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago

There's no sense in lashing out at nonvoters. We need to organize in order to make a difference.

[-] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 14 points 1 day ago

No sense, but I'd like to see the morons who kept bullshitting that there is any kind of sense in not voting. The dumbest fucking people anywhere

[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago

It's hard to understate how fucking awful the accelerationism was this last year.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago

Given the results of the election, it seems that the accelerationists might have had the right idea.

A burning building doesn't get put out by watching it burn. And the fire can in fact spread to the next building. Things can always get worse because there is no bottom. Things will only get better by making them better.

The accelerationists got what they wanted. And everyone, including them, are worse off for it. We've gone from not utilizing the limited time window, to avert the worst of climate change, to choosing to use that time to pollute as much as possible. We may in fact succeed in reaching 5°C before 2100.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 18 hours ago

Things will only get better by making them better.

And people are lazy and don't try, so things always get worse until things get bad enough that people get fed up with the things and do something about them.

For the last four years, people have been acting like they don't need to get off their asses and fundamentally change their way of life to address climate change because there was a Democrat in office. Now the Democrats aren't going to save them and they don't have a choice if they want a habitable planet for their grandkids.

[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 17 hours ago

Accelerationists suppressing the vote with their rhetoric is part of how we got here. They are the ones who intentionally went out of their way to fail and make other people fail as well. If laziness bothers you, then this should drive you up the wall.

It was not the Democrats who were going to save us. It was we the people who would save our democracy with our votes.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 3 hours ago

Accelerationists didn't depress the vote, the pro-fracking genocide apologist who tried to appeal to Republicans instead of her own base did.

The Democrats were never going to save us, only we can save us. The lazy people are those who thought voting alone would be sufficient and won't re-engage with politics until the next election.

[-] Thevenin@beehaw.org 2 points 23 hours ago

Accelerationists have never been right, their argument is self-defeating.

The heart of the accelerationist argument is equating red and blue, claiming the blues' inability to completely undo the damage of the reds is intentional and makes them no better -- that the purpose of a system is what it does.

But by that logic, the purpose of accelerationism is to enable fascist ascent, and that makes them indistinguishable from fascists.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 18 hours ago

If the purpose of a thing is what it does, then accelerationism isn't for anything. Recognizing that things will inevitably get worse before they can get better accomplishes nothing.

[-] natuhhlee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

It's likely because of them that this was the outcome. 81M votes for Biden in 2020 and 10K less this year when it really mattered?

[-] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 18 hours ago

If it really mattered to the Democrats, they wouldn't be phoning it in on every issue from climate change to abortion to genocide. The party only has itself to blame for its failure to appeal to voters.

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