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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

When you say objectively, do you mean closer to the platonic ideal of ice cream? Closer to THE ice cream, by which all other ice cream is known?

In that case consider: what of what makes ice cream ice cream is present in vanilla and chocolate versions? Moose tracks is a great ice cream, and it shares it's base with vanilla. But rocky road is also stellar, and it has a chocolate base. But in general, more ice cream types share the base with vanilla than chocolate. That would indicate vanilla is closer to the shared idea of all ice cream.

Further more, chocolate is a separate ideal of itself. No one desires the ideal vanilla extract, it is nothing on its own. So the ideal ice cream, totally disconnected from the material world and other ideals, would be closer to the blank slate vanilla than the specialized chocolate. Vanilla the word is even short hand for unaltered.

So in conclusion, from a deep examination of the platonic forms and ideals of ice cream, vanilla is objectively superior.

That being said, in my opinion chocolate is objectively superior in every way.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

platonic ideal of ice cream

OP never even specified ice cream.

So this leaves a lot of interpretation what kind of objective rating we should apply. For example if it's about the underlying material used (vanilla beans vs cocoa beans) we could also be looking at economics and availability.

this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2023
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