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China-Slovakia relations elevated to strategic partnership
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Oh yeah, I forgot calling oneself a socialist lifts any questions from the western leftists. You can be a corrupt nationalist government, have mafia kill jurnos, all is good.
Do name the right wing policies SMER promotes, I'll wait.
Just after you name any of their policies without googling it.
so can't actually name any, thanks for confirming
Ok, honestly I've got no patience to pretend that you don't simply support him for his alignment with Russia/China as if their was any different from US imperialism. He represents (half of) a country in which Moscow used tanks to put down a popular uprising, but is their uncritical servant. Same as his other buddies, stirring up far right talking points in favor of "fortress europe", against the backdrop of their Moscow handlers and their colony in Bealarus pushing out migrants into swamps and primal forests on the border with Poland and Finland in an attempt at creating a crisis.
We deal with this shit, find dead people in the swamps and bushes, and fight fascists stirred up by these migrations and openly supported by the same people who caused this. Meanwhile you get your edge-lord points for siding with something you consider leftist? or just admire their authoritarianism for whatever reason? I'm pretty sure I've encouraged you before; visit eastern Europe, or Russia and confront your imagination with the reality of what things are here.
And there it is, you're just upset that he wants to stop the war and that people might stop dying.
I haven't mentioned the war itself, I've only mentioned the Russia-manufactured border crisis where Belarusian services starve and force push out people onto the Polish border. That's what you're cheering for; using helpless people as meat to throw in a geopolitical grinder.
If you want to have an idea of how it looks there's a movie our last regime attempted to silence; Zielona Granica / Green Border. Feel free to drop the feel-good ending - there's none - nowdays, with the new cheerfully liberal regime the activists cant even reach the border anymore as it's all a militarized zone with hot rounds fired.
But on the issue of war - allowing an empire to size territory is not stopping the war, it's repeating the failed concept of appeasement towards a regime openly discussing it's imperialist aspirations (and history of long and brutal occupation of the entire region). Anti-imperialist struggles are only good if they are against US, and Slavs don't deserve their rights to self determination?
Nah, the concept of appeasement doesn't apply here because the nature of the war is security competition between Russia and NATO with NATO having been the aggressor encroaching on Russian border while engaging in violent invasions of states like Yugoslavia and regime change operations including violent coup in Ukraine. You can stop lying about the causes of the war because the chief of NATO already admitted the real reason in plain terms:
Now, it's obvious to anybody with even a minimally functioning brain that Russia has won the war, and the US will leave Europe out to dry. You warmongers deserve everything that's coming to you.
So you're just gloss over the issue of using "тёмненький" ("darkies") as meat cuz you don't have a pre-set propaganda excuse for it, or what?
And yeah, of course every bully has to defend themself, Germany was threatened by the Jew and had to fight it's 'existential' fight for liberty from their control... Still, you're apparently so deep into hatred of Slavs you want us to be subjected, is all.
Poland is like one of the most racist countries on this planet. Take a seat there maybe bud. It's frankly embarrassing.
I could name a few worse ones, it's not Moscow, where dark-skinned people got killed on a daily basis, but I'd agree it's one of the more racist. You're lecturing someone who literally leads people against 50-100k strong fascists marches, but thank you for west-splaining our situation. We Slav stupid, we not know if not western left messiah.
keep deflecting clown
If only you could deal with the facts, it'd be an interesting discussion, but best you can pull is childish negation of anything that could shake up your poorly educated opinions. Afraid your western-individualist petite bourgeoisie 'personality' will be ruined by confronting reality?
Oh I am dealing with facts. Russia is aligned with the global majority against the racist colonial west. Afraid your western-individualist petite bourgeoisie ‘personality’ will be ruined by confronting reality?
OK, so what about sponsoring neonazis?
Interesting policy of wreaking destruction upon every "regime" that doesn't align with your hypocritically professed values, irrespective of the history of the country and how the group you want wiped out came to power in the first place.
There is a problem though, that your wish to isolate these states from diplomacy and trade does nothing more than create stripped-down capitalist states, at the mercy of London and Wall St. and their blob, the conditions and the political influences that produce these "left" and "right" neoliberal parties (for neocons are a variety of liberal, economically, despite your ahistorical use of the term). Your whole approach is mindlessly destructive and counterproductive.
The endgame of this strategy looks like Milei, like post-Gaddafi Libya. Your approach always results in starvation, rape, and murder of the population, and this collapse of society allows far right groups easy pickings.
You mean the way the west has been since 2014 in Ukraine?
Wait so you claim to be left and somehow oppose partnership with China? How am I to understand this?
Yes, one can be leftist and anti-authoritarian. I dont believe state capitalism is the solution.
Oh I see so what is the alternative offered to Slovaks then?
Can't be bothered to look for a similar research for SMER, but when the party members of Polish SLD (Sojusz Lewicy Demokratycznej - same type of post-communist party) were studied they tended to be economically more liberal and socially more conservative then the local neo-cons, and that's quite an achievement, as these are basically air-dropped chicago-school of economy US made products.
Left wing ideologies have been destroyed in CEE by the soviet fallout. What's left* are parties cashing in on the nostalgia (/conservatism) and soft authoritarianism with a hint of social policies. By this account Polish PiS (Prawo i Sprawiedliwość) party is also nearly leftist - they had some populist social programs. None of these actually affect the situation of the neglected parts of society in the long term, but the cash giveaways secure the vote, and apparently support from some...
*Of course outside of mainstream there's tiny honest left, socialist or even communist groups, but that's nothing to do with what passes as the mainstream "left", most of which is to the right of western centrists.
go home fash
You could ask literally any active polish Antifa who I am, if actually meant anything more than an pitiful attempt at an insult.
Polish antifa have shown themselves to be about as anti-fascist as national socialists.
With what exactly? Your tanki friends getting a slap for breaking the terms they got for joining our action? I'd expect you of all people to understand following a set line and punishing dissenters.
You're blood thirsty war mongers who allied themselves with literal fascists.
You're siding with a regime that used neonazis to kill our comrades in front of it's goverment buildings, forced our Russian comrades to move from blunt weapons to firearms just to survive on the streets, supports crypto-fascist regimes, and openly finances French, German, Austrian, US neonazis, but claim we side with fascist? Hilarious. Maybe it's time you volunteer to 'Rusich', now officially a part of FSB?
Belarusian and Ukrainian refugees make up 1/4 of my city and half of the radical movement here. Like many of our comrades I've been traveling the region for over 20 years. Been to Moscow, been to deep Caucasian Russia, been to Ukraine a few times including the very areas that are now a battlefield and shared roof and drinks with comrades from other countries, who were now martyred there.
But still instead of hearing out someone who's committed their life to struggle, you're better educated based on something you've read on the internet. Nothing like a western colonial mindset over the experience of local, working people deciding to fight against oppression.
Their killers are now serving lifetime sentences with no chance for parole. And how were punished killers of our comrades Vadim Papura and Andrei Brazhevsky? There wasn't even proper investigation of their murder, and the regime which protects their killers is now actively supported by some shitheads pretending to be "antifa".
I remember those times very well as it was significant part of my early adulthood. The simple fact that some of those who fought for antifa at the time later decided to support the Nazi coup in 2014 does not change the simple truth that post-Maidan Ukraine is a neo-Nazi shithole, and these "antifa" (mostly, but not exclusively, from the Arsenal and MTZ-RIPO/Partizan fan bases) are nothing more than subcultural scum. Those of them who died fighting for this shit deserve no other honor than Darwin prize.
Now get fucked along with your friends and your "struggle".
The regime you ally yourself with is openly fascist. Period. You are a nazi lover.
In which policy exactly?
here's one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHWHqj8g7Bk
Help me out here. Someone describing reversing of the situation of his people is a nazi, but Russian state forcing that very situation on his people is anti-nazi? How does that work?
And as a side note what is this mans role in the administration? He holds any?
And how does that fare with Miedwiediew threatening half of Europe nuclear annihilation every few months? He chairs Security Council of the Russian Federation as far as I remmeber?
You're doing that whole whataboutism thing here. At best you can say both are bad, but you are actively supporting one side here. So, you have no moral high ground. You're just a nazi lover and you see Russians as the wrong nazis. It's hilarious how Europe keeps doing posturing and then acting all surprised that Russia is taking hostile stance towards them. You're such utter clowns, you should all get together and start a circus. Maybe that could be your new economic model.