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So was it the the Russians who blew up their own Nord pipeline, or was it that Ukrainian guy with a yacht? It's hard to keep track
Data cables defo Russia sabotage (if deliberate), doesn't serve anyone else's goals
Ukranian special ops, acting on their own
Edit: Story
Thst story is completely fake - it has no source.
Except for the German federal prosecutors, Dutch officials, former Ukranian commander in chief, and the sabotage team themselves, I suppose you're right.
Inasumuch as you can have a source for a covert operation after the fact.
Can you link the direct source - like, statement of german police or official press conference?
I've spent some time looking into this and found no direct sources.
BTW, these articles are copypaste - There were bunch of much older (2023?) ones which I also failed to find any credible source for.
EDIT: Correction, the first articles about this came out 3 months ago
The part about Zelenski ordering sabotage while drunk has both no source and is utterly ridiculous.
I agree. I also didn't see it in the article -?
If you want to find German federal prosecutor records, or Dutch itelligence reports - I'm not sure where to go for those.
It pains me to say this but the WSJ, while being a Murdoch rag and certainly guilty of ridiculous bias in the way it reports things, isn't really known for making up things whole cloth like the Daily Mail or something.
Do you think German police would issue an arrest warrant against a Ukrainian, while their country is supporting Ukraine in the war, if they didn't have any solid proof? https://apnews.com/article/germany-nord-stream-pipelines-explosions-investigation-d5579ea69995e8f309ac58c588c39004
Prosecutors have a lead against someone holding Ukrainian citizenship. That doesn't say anything more than that someone with Ukrainian citizenship was involved, in particular it doesn't say that he's not a Russian operative. Or Polish, for that matter, the Poles were uncharacteristically uncooperative.
In any case it's not like Germany would be mad it's the wheels of justice churning as usual. Heck at this point I haven't ruled out that it was a German operation. The whole yacht theory is in general on shaky ground because one does not just lower some sea mines with a yacht. Or smuggle them to a Polish port. etc., etc.
Not exactly on their own initially according to this article.
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