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[-] yarr@feddit.nl 169 points 1 month ago

I fucking HATE these clickbait headlines. Read the dang article and look at the quotes:

"I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it— to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities," he said during the broadcast. (emphasis added)

RFK is a total whackjob, but it's pretty clear he's talking about some kind of voluntary "farm therapy" (which probably isn't demonstrably effective anyway) and not a concentration camp.

PLEASE we got enough bombastic language and clickbait over the Biden years. There are PLENTY of things wrong with the actual quote above without taking us into clickbait territory.

Let's criticize him on the grounds of being scientific but proposing very un-scientific actions. Let's criticize him for proposing ineffective solutions, but please, focus on his ACTUAL statement instead of trying to fluff it into some goddamn headline.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago

Time to add futurism.com to my block list. What a useless rag.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 15 points 1 month ago

100% They are part of the death of journalism. Inaccurate, hyped headlines that disagree with the body of the article. Designed to get "engagement" and not to inform. Fuck them.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've never seen a futurist community online that isn't just an attention-span-bankrupt group of headline-whores and hype-addicts, desperately trying to escape reality by embracing futurist ideas and sensational new stories without critical thought.

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Voluntary, as in NYPD saying you’ll be arrested if you don’t voluntarily go into their overcrowded bedbug homeless shelter?

This is not as benign as you think. RFK already thinks vaccines annd prescribed meds are child abuse.

[-] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Although these wellness farms might seem like a worthwhile idea on paper, there are plenty of ways these kinds of systems could be rife with abuse. It's also unclear how different they would really be from the rehabilitation facilities that already exist across the country, and RFK's claims that most of the issues come down to not eating organic food also don't seem to be based on hard science.

https://www.distractify.com/p/rfk-wellness-farms

Means well but it sounds here like they'll be volunteering at a farm for 3-4 uears, wasting their time

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh yeah... "volunteering."

And for "as much time as they need."

Doesn't seem ominous at all from a guy with a brainworm in a government that's being jizzed on by the whole for-profit-prison industry. I'm sure they'll have no interest in these "wellness farms".

Arbeit macht frei.

[-] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

First thing that came to mind reading the headline

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

can we report this sort of thing here? downvoting has never worked.

[-] cybermass@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Lemmy needs a few more things, like reporting and time sort etc

[-] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

You clearly have not read the history of Nazi era labor camps. They had very nice sounding propaganda for Germans to believe too.

Don't kid yourself. They mean forced labor camps.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Sure, totally voluntary. With barbed wire, guards, prison gangs, and court orders. Just like the reform schools for teenagers.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl -2 points 1 month ago

You should go write for futurism.com.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

This is exactly how the marketing for reform schools looks. They show pictures of happy kids doing fun things. And in reality they just torture kids into obedience.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Who decides if they need it ?

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

According to the RFK quote above, the person themselves. According to a lot of the posters in this thread: Republican Death Squads.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Assuming this is government funded, I'd be more than happy to spend a couple of years at such a place. I need to take a break from reality and not worry about bills for a bit.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago

Some additional context: RFK proposed these farms will be funded by sales tax on cannabis products. Whether you consider that government funded or not is up to you.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I don't care so long as food and shelter are provided, and I don't have to pay for it.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Reading the actual quote makes it sound a lot WORSE.

Less like "farm therapy" and more like:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_to_the_Countryside_Movement

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

"Voluntary".... In the same way that gay conversion therapy is voluntary, or the same way those kid murdering behavioral farms are voluntary.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I got into great shape mentally and physically with a limited diet and constant farm chores. Of course, I was alone and not surrounded by brain worms piloting human hosts so maybe that was what worked.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

People want excitement more than they want truth.

This is why Trump was elected again.

MAGAs are not some strange species of subhuman. They're humans like us, genetically identical almost, same with nazis and Jim Jones cultists and everyone else who has ever done anything inexplicable. They have the same vulnerabilities and the same biases and the same reactions. If they're dumber, then the stories their brains will tell them to explain their feelings will also be dumber, but your brain does the same thing every time you feel a thing.

We're all going to have to confront this unpleasant fact about just how much free-will we actually have in the coming decade as more and more of reality becomes compromised in our daily scrolling rituals, as more bots and scammers and influencers become far more sophisticated and intelligent in their schemes.

I hope that after some period of hardship and confusion we all look at information in a different way, as the internet becomes consumed by the AI slop engine and nobody can prove what's real anymore and anyone can manipulate anyone else's image and voice perfectly and we all have to embrace new attitudes towards ourselves and our ego.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago

People want excitement more than they want truth.

This isn't what I want. I believe I am the minority opinion now.

[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 2 points 1 month ago

We're all subhuman because humanity is a myth we invented for ourselves. We're still just dumb fucking apes, slinging our shit at apes that look different and mimicking the apes we think look like us. As a species we won't grow or reflect upon anything. We're just trying to filter out our civilization.

[-] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I actually like the idea, if they fund it.
I could go away for a year no questions asked.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago

Assuming it is implemented as RFK says, I agree. I can see some people choosing to take some time on a farm to try to address their drug addictions.

Since neither Trump (nor RFK) have a track record of delivering, I will believe it when I see it. If people in the USA wrestling with drug addiction had a choice to work at a wellness farm it seems like a positive development to me. Since Team Trump is big on words and short on action, I won't give them the benefit of the doubt here. I suspect it's just another entry in the long list of stuff they talk about and then don't actually do.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

from the description it sounds like public healthcare, rehab. yea, it sounds good

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