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Anti-NATO protesters gathered again in Montreal on Saturday to demand Canada withdraw from the alliance, a day after a demonstration organized by different groups resulted in arrests, burned cars and shattered windows.

the purpose of the protest was to demonstrate against what he called NATO’s “complicity with Israel’s military while it’s conducting its genocide in Gaza, … war crimes in Lebanon, Syria” and that “it’s enforcing illegal occupation of Palestinian territories.”

However, Allard rejected accusations of antisemitism. He said the protests were against the actions of the state of Israel and not Jewish people, adding that earlier this week the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

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[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

When did NATO go to war outside the Iraq war? I seem to have missed that.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

NATO didn't go to war with Iraq, the coalition of the willing did. NATO got involved later on with a mission to train the Iraqi army but that's a footnote, also, not actual combat.

Afghanistan was a NATO war, triggered by the US invoking Article 5. NATO also intervened in Yugoslavia. Everyone was pretty much genociding everyone there, massacres left and right, but the Serbs had a disproportionate amount of military resources and were able to do systematic genocide which prompted the intervention. And please for your own sanity ignore anything Chomsky has to say about the thing he's still calling concentration camps refugee shelters. "CIA says something so the opposite must be true" brainworms.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah that's right.. thanks.

[-] antiykns@thelemmy.club -1 points 3 weeks ago

Why "outside the Iraq war" you dishonest fuck? That alone is a pretty good example of how shitty the NATO is. The US have undue power in NATO vassal states due to them empowering fascists and killing left-wing politicians. I even had some of yee jingoist fucks try to defend Gladio lmao. Litteral terrorists.

It's not a benevolent alliance between partners, it's a vassal-overlord relationship, a protection racket and a subsidy to their weapon industry. Do not forget who empowered the russian fascists or the talibans in the first place.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

It’s not a benevolent alliance between partners, it’s a vassal-overlord relationship,

Why do I only hear that kind of thing from Americans with their penchant for exceptionalism, or vatniks.

You could see just how much control the US has over NATO by the amount of states telling them to pound sand when it came to Vietnam, when it came to Iraq.

[-] antiykns@thelemmy.club -3 points 3 weeks ago
[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

NATO went in by request of the Iraqi government, to train their army and police. In 2004. The coalition of the willing invaded 2003. You're on the wrong wikipedia page.

What certainly can't be denied is that many countries who did participate did so to crawl up the US's arse. But that doesn't mean that the US is controlling them, it means that the US has a comfortable asshole.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago

Do not forget who empowered the russian fascists or the talibans in the first place.

Reagan, and the Pakistani ISI, respectively.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago

Well that's a constructive answer, and not even a good one. Maybe spend a little less time in your echo chambers and look at all factors of conflicts instead of US bad.. rest is irrelevant.

[-] antiykns@thelemmy.club -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Shut the fuck up you jingoist twat. Shove your NATO into your butthole. As an european I want us to stop sucking that american cock like little submissive cunts.

I mean, the US have a law nicknamed the haag invasion act. In any other situation, it would be an act of war, but dutchies are little cowardy idiots they like to deepthroat uncle sam's dick.

That's the thing with atlantist turds. They all like to jerk off on nationalism until Biden's in town and then it's all "gimme your massive american mantwat daddy".

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

I think you are a troll..and a badly mannered one at that. Arguing against pax americana just means you have not been paying attention the last 50 years.

I'd nuance all this.. with it could have been better, the 1st world did a lot of nasty things and and and.. but under a USSR victory.. everyone would have been way more fucked.. just look at the hellholes that modeled after the USSR and evolved from there.. but yea.. all the US's fault amirite?

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