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For decades, they've had chance after chance to prove themselves to the working class. Now, you dare suggest that the corporatist Christo-fascists will win if we don't keep voting in the same corporatist neo-liberal celebrity-fellators?
If the DNC establishment doesn't get tossed out on their ass during the next committee same primary election cycle, the average citizen is fucked.
We are already fucked. Fascism already won. We had to chose between democrats and fascism and people like yourself shit on democrats enough to convince enough voters to either stay home or vote Trump or 3rd party. Letting perfection be the enemy of progress. There’s no going back now.
You don't know anything about me. Furthermore, I don't think you're comprehending what I'm saying. Simply put, the Democratic establishment needs to be tossed out on their ass for gross incompetence. The way that's done is the vote for the DNC and the next round of primaries.
Apathy caused democrats to lose voters in the 2024 election. Sowing more apathy won’t improve voter turnout.
Their shitty platform is what makes people apathetic. Stop blaming the person who's just pointing at it.
So you’re saying the republicans won because their platform isn’t shitty?
No but their voters don't care
You just can't help yourself, can you?
You want to shit on our only alternative to fascism and then pretend you aren’t helping fascism win. Then claim anyone pointing that out is trolling.
Again, I don't advocate for apathy. I advocate for ousting the establishment DNC leadership by voting. Your reading comprehension sucks, or your half-assed trolling is obvious.
How do we “oust establishment DNC” by voting? Who is the establishment DNC? Are you saying we need to vote for the opposition? We need to vote in the primary? Haven’t we already been doing that? How do we know who is establishment and who isn’t?
You’re being vague and claiming my reading comprehension sucks because your aren’t actually saying anything.
I've pinched my nose and voted for Democrats my whole adult life in every election, donated to campaigns, voted in primaries, written to representatives and senators, been a member of a Union, and attended town halls, marches, and rallies. Don't ever talk to me about apathy.
Here is the DNC leadership.
Here are the next contenders for DNC chair.
Here's a site to track congressperson's voting records.
Go to and participate in the candidate forums in January. Ask pointed questions about what their strategy to contend with the GOP will be in light of the recent defeats. Watch who votes for who in the February DNC chair election.
Get the word out and vote in the primaries against representatives who willingly fellate corporatists and/or dance around the glaring failures of strategy, messaging, or are complicit in the disenfranchisement of the working class.
But honestly, anything I say will be just more food for your trolling, or you're butt-hurt when people call out failures and controlled opposition. Whatever it is, kick rocks barefoot.
I’ve done those things too. Without spreading apathy. Come down off your high horse.
This is actually a productive response that doesn’t involve sowing apathy towards the only alternative to fascism. Thanks, I’ll be doing these things and I’m being genuine when say that.
Aaaaaand you’re right back to cutting off your nose to spite your face. Maybe you’ve been unsuccessful in changing the Democratic Party despite all you’ve done because of your attitude.
How incredibly rich that you're trying to tone-police my "attitude" and "high horse", given your replies to me.
Make sure you wag your finger nice and hard while kicking rocks.
Pointing out your shitty attitude and condescending tone isn’t the same as policing it. By all means keep talking to people that way as you try to convince voters to join your revolution.