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South Korea President Yoon declares martial law
(www.reuters.com)
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Yup the south is totally a democracy guys. It's those northern communists that are pillaging out happiness. Pay no mind to the capitalist hellscape it's actually communisms fault. Oh you don't agree we'll time to declare martial law. Democratically
Watch the rest of South Korea's politicians swiftly depose Yoon for this absolute fuckery (edit: to clarify, even his own party is lambasting this as unconstitutional). I've never seen a change in leadership, meanwhile, as North Korea has spent at minimum the last 35 years under a dictator imposing martial law in the form of Songun, spending 25% of their budget on the military while millions of their people have starved to death.
Piss off with this disgusting, tankie bullshit.
Edit: Two hours after the declaration, their parliament has voted 190–0 to end martial law. Totally North Korea, guys.
I didn't say north Korea was good but ok.
I was making fun of Yoon's reasoning here where he literally blamed communists for pillaging happiness from the south. I guess that's not allowed without also condemning north Korea?
So do you condemn North Korea's use of martial law? It seems oddly coincidental that your comment sounds so much like typical "actually, South Korea are the bad guys; North Korea true, prosperous Korea" fare and that you only protest my comment after this coup attempt was shut down by the National Assembly.
Well if you're still paying attention it doesn't seem so over yet what with the attempted arrest of political opposition. We'll see how it plays out. Hopefully peacefully.
South Korea are the bad guys. Well not THE bad guys. Just some bad guys. Like their government is famously corrupt and rather recently a dictatorship as well. North Korea martial law is also bad but not directly pertinent to this news story. Odd that whenever something bad happen in the south you feel you must jump up and shout that the north is worse.
You literally started this comment chain by drawing a comparison of Yoon's actions you were condemning to those of North Korea. You made it pertinent. Interesting trying to both-sides North and South Korea, though. Modern ROK and modern DPRK are definitely both very comparably bad. Yep.
I was mocking the words Yoon said himself that blamed the communists for having to do this. So I suppose pertinent if you want to take what he says at face value and believe he did this because of the commies pillaging the happiness of the south. I wouldn't believe him if I where you but you do what you like.
Since I do not believe him and instead believe that he is lying and wants to maintain power for himself the conditions in North Korea do not actually pertain to whether or not Yoon's declaration of martial law has merit.
It's bad to declare martial law. It's funny to blame your fascistic actions on commies. It's weird to insist that we have to talk about North Korea before we can say Yoon is being ridiculous.
I agree that the ROK and DPRK are largely incomparable.
Do you agree that Yoon is ridiculous for blaming commies in the north or do you think that actually is relevant to his reasoning?
Yup, Yoon's stated reasoning was a ridiculous pretext to justify a military coup and evade accountability, and he should be ousted immediately and thrown in jail.
Well we agree at last!
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn38321180et?post=asset%3Acb5be5ba-c24f-462c-be58-5fa0b8de3dcc#post
Totally normal democracy stuff here guys. Yoon's also in lame duck period too.
Let's see how enforceable that declaration actually is with the law itself, the National Assembly, the cabinet whose backs Yoon went behind to pull this stunt, and at least 2/3 of the population who already disapproved of him before this opposing it.
I'd be willing to bet their president does not have direct control over payroll for their military. That tends to put a stop to things pretty damn quick.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_South_Korea
You've never seen a change in leadership? They've changed presidents and parties fairly regularly...
My comment is referring to North Korea's leadership. Technically I've seen Kim Il Sung –> Kim Jong Il –> Kim Jong Un, but I don't consider that "new leadership", because it isn't; it's the same line of a hereditary dictatorship.
Oh, I see. Yeah, that's accurate.