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I'm not reading all that because there's no such thing as an ethical billionaire. Oh I'm sure they're plenty nice to your face, but you can't earn a billion dollars. You can only steal it.
We're not arguing whether or not you can earn a billion dollars. If that's your argument, being a billionaire has nothing to do with it. You're just pissed at people making maximum money for minimum effort and you think that's unethical. That's call an uninformed opinion.
I just don't waste my time being angry at others for things that have nothing to do with me. I see how my life and the world around me has been benefitted from those with more money than me and I'm grateful. There's a good argument for it but with the alternative being Communism, I just don't see humans accepting a lifestyle of stagnation.
I'm fucking enraged that we live in a system that lets dragons horde mountains of gold while their nextdoor neighbors starve to death or are buried in medical debt that is mathematically impossible to get out of. And idiots like you are over here going, "but guys, Smaug is nice to meeeeee". You being OK with any of it means you're 100% oblivious to the context that this conversation happens in.
Oh no! ANYTHING but THAT! Could you imagine living in a world where people don't die because they can't afford insulin? I shudder just thinking about it. Thank God those disgusting poors die like they're supposed to, that's the American Way™
You actually believe insulin would exist in a communist society? And hospitals?
People taking on medical debt or dying due to poor health care has nothing to do with billionaires. It does have to do with capitalism. It has to do with a government who rejects social safety programs in favor of wall street run corporations. This has been the republican agenda for decades and people keep voting for it.
I really am not sure how to break this to you.
What would you call a government who embraces social safety programs against the interests of wall street run corporations?
That would be one that no one alive today will ever see in the United States.
Its so hard so we should never try and just let all the disgusting poors die like pigs in the street. Got it.
And its not worth ever trying to change anything for future generations, fuck your loser kids, you got yours right?
Quick question, which country has the most doctors per capita in the world?
I didn't ask bout doctors - I said hospitals. The answer to that would be Guinea Bissau. I'll concede this point to you even though the top answers are largely skewed due to the physical size of these locations (Sweden is the most reasonable answer outside tiny Cuba and Monaco).
Help me figure this out. In the region I've lived my whole life, older hospitals that were initially established by churches have been left to crumble or have been bought out by other corporate run healthcare facilities. So, without these new hospitals, in your mind, what would the future of health care have been in this region?
These hospitals all crumbled and failed because they were no longer profitable, which is not a problem that exists in a socialist run country.
Where would the socialist money come from to maintain the hospital? Local tax payers? The State? The Fed? I can tell you the region these hospitals are crumbling in are themselves crumbling. The people who haven't left are poor and have no taxes to help.
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Billionaires have all the money that will ever be needed to fix this problem forever. Your friend (who is 100% part of the problem) included. I want to take their wealth back and invest it in the people, like any functional society worth a damn would do.
I have other friends in sports. Tell me how all the hundreds of millions and billions they've made is exploitive.
first off its not my job to analyze every specific thief. But since I have nothing else to do right now: do you think sport stadiums and sport organizations are just like immutable laws of nature? They're just always there? No, there are legions of people who work to make these events happen, and the athletes steal basically all the money. For crying out loud, the Qatar world cup stadium was built using literal slave labor. All those morally corrupt athletes still played there.
You have ~~thief~~ billionaire athlete friends (a claim I am dubious of). Well, I have friends who work in the sports industry who are 50 and can't afford to move out of their parents basement. They are employed full-time and work at least three jobs.
Ok. Well I can't understand how you think an athlete is stealing money they've signed a contract to receive. Do you think you're stealing money at your job? Is your 50 year old friend stealing money? At what point are you not stealing money? Who decides what's theft or what's not?
You could pay my friend a livable wage so he could live in his own property for the first time in his life or you could keep the money for yourself. You are entirely dependent on him doing his job for you to earn anything, and you choose to keep the money for yourself. And you truly don't see how keeping all the money for yourself is stealing his wages? Oh and also there are hundreds of thousands of people in my friends situation, but there's only like 500 of you.
Do you have any idea how an economy actually works? Money doesn’t build buildings. It doesn’t treat sick patients. It doesn’t conduct medical research. People and their labor do all of that.
Ok. I guess you can work for free.
Yeah and then you won’t be able to pay for housing built by other working class people and food grown by other working class people. Wait that’s weird. I can’t seem to find the billionaires in that equation. It’s almost like the needs of working class people could be met by… other working class people.
Sure is neat how .ml is full of tankies.
So many words and yet you didn’t answer the question.
I did.
Where in your answer did you say. “Cuba has the most doctors per capita”? Because all I see is you trying to weasel your way out of answering directly. I mean like do you even understand how absurd you sound trying to relativize Cuba with Monaco?
I'm not sure how the size of Cuba has any connection to numbers of doctors per capita. In any case, they didn't used to have nearly so many, it was just like any other poor, exploited, undeveloped nation, and people frequently died from lack of care. When the communists came to power, they immediately focused on things like education and healthcare, and now they have so many doctors they regularly send them out to other countries in humanitarian missions, where before they were the ones in need of humanitarian aid. So yes, just looking from past examples, there would definitely be doctors and hospitals with communists in charge, moreso than under capitalism even, and more accessible.
Obviously, you'd just have the state build those hospitals. What reason is there that hospitals should be profit-seeking?