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College enrollment among 18-year-old freshmen fell 5% this fall, with declines most severe at public and private non-profit four-year colleges.

Experts attribute the drop to factors including declining birth rates, high tuition costs, FAFSA delays, and uncertainty over student loan relief after Supreme Court rulings against forgiveness plans.

Economic pressures, such as the need to work, also deter students.

Despite declining enrollment, applications have risen, particularly among low- and middle-income students, underscoring interest in higher education. Experts urge addressing affordability and accessibility to reverse this trend.

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[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What you're describing sounds like a liberal arts school. That's kind of the point, at least for undergrad.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Electives are pretty commonplace and definitely not restricted to liberal arts, even for STEM undergrads.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

My buddy with a computer science took water color and film classes. Issue is more bring forced to do it rather then take more relevant classes.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

That's just how undergrad goes usually. One of my undergrad degrees was science but I still had to take english, history, art, etc. Once you get to grad school it becomes more focused, but part of the point of going to college is to get a well rounded education. Otherwise, you could just pursue certifications.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

I thought the point of college was to get a paper so I can a job that tells me to forget everything I learned. Plus ppl only cared about GPA. No one askes about electives.

[-] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Not OP, but no actually. My degree is an ABET accredited B.S. and I had to take about a years worth of classes (over the course of the four years) that had nothing to do with my degree (e.g. psychology, sociology, philosophy, etc.) Their "rational" was that it was to make students more well rounded human beings and members of society.

While I appreciate the sentiment in theory, I have to disagree with it in practice. For people like me that find those topics interesting already it seemed like a waist of time and money. While I did learn some new concepts it's mostly stuff I had already learned in my free time or would have come across sooner than later. For most of the other people (who tend to be uncurious outside of their specific niche skill set or interests) most of the information and lessons end up being lost on them as it doesn't really stick.

I'm sure they were some people it was beneficial for, but I doubt it was the majority.

Then again I'm not sure my view of the college experience was very typical. I was basically taking care of myself in some capacity by middle school and got a full time job during highschool in IT after my junior year via the trade program. I was living on my own and working full time while going to school full time. I'd go from work where the next youngest coworker was 10 years older than I was and people twice my age respected my opinion and person to classes where I was treated like an irresponsible child.

However, I would then over hear or observe other students taking about how surprised they were by various aspects of living away from home or "being an adult" and I couldn't help but just think ".... yeah that shouldn't be surprising, are you dumb?" (never said out loud or to them, I knew I was in the minority with my experience, but it was surprising).

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