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As a reminder, ClubsAll is still showing all of Lemmy's content without federating back (clubsall.com)

submitted 5 days ago by Blaze@feddit.org to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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A post from 2 months ago which explained the context: https://lemmy.world/post/20694710

I just had a look, nothing has changed, the website is still using Lemmy's content to pretend to be active

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[-] ptz@dubvee.org 17 points 5 days ago

I'm unfamiliar with Clubsall. Is it pulling them via federation or fetching via API? Would defederating work? I appear to have already defederated, likely in response to your earlier post, but not sure if that does anything. And that only stops them from pulling content from my instance, not what I posted to any other.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

ActivityPub I would say, they show up on https://lemmy.world/instances for instance

api.clubsall.com
clubsall-api.renchesterjramos.workers.dev
clubsall-api.appcafe.workers.dev
clubsall-api3.renchesterjramos.workers.dev
clubsall-api2.appcafe.workers.dev
clubsall-api2.renchesterjramos.workers.dev
clubsall-api4.renchesterjramos.workers.dev

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 16 points 5 days ago

Thanks. I just had the main domain blocked, but I think I needed all of the subdomains as well. From the looks of those worker domains, it may be a cat-mouse game trying to keep them blocked.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 11 points 5 days ago

Thanks for this, we should get a wiki going somewhere for admins

[-] vinay_clubsall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Please include me

[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

So im a bit confused, if they are federated whats the issue? Is it just a one way street or something?

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's a one way federation: they only fetch Lemmy's comment, but don't allow other instances to get their content.

There are more details in the post linked in the OP

[-] Nothing4You@programming.dev 5 points 5 days ago

this isn't entirely true, they do have some comments on lemmy as well, here are some examples:

it seems to be primarily about their communities not federating though i guess?

and either nobody from there posted a post to a lemmy community yet or maybe it doesn't federate posts currently?

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 10 points 5 days ago

I was talking about the communities indeed.

From the project creator

Sorry you feel that way. Keep in mind that we built everything from scratch. Federation is not currently implemented, and we’ll need time.

https://lemmy.world/comment/12845276

[-] Nothing4You@programming.dev 10 points 5 days ago

ugh, i didn't notice they're even hiding domains of remote communities for "simplicity" in most cases. that seems so much more dishonest tbh.

[-] vinay_clubsall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

@Nothing4You@programming.dev

The idea was to simplify federation for a non tech user. I believe that is literally why ActivityPub is not able to effectively compete.

We are trying to simplify by hiding all complexities. If we try nothing new, the results will not change. There have been many threads about ClubsAll and everyone disagrees what is fair and unfair, so it has been difficult for us to comply. Would it be fair to ask for a common set of rules to be fair to everyone and give me a chance to save clubsall?