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Bernie Sanders says defeating oligarchy now most urgent issue
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As someone not from the US (but who has lived/worked/studied in the US), Sanders seems like the only member of the US upper house that is willing to speak honestly and engage in haram speech that goes against local provincial orthodoxy.
I was particularly intrigued by an article that claimed that Sanders was the only "outsider" in the US upper house and that all other senators were more or less on friendly terms (with the implication being that their polemics are a ruse). Unfortunately I can't find the article.
He is, and he's loved by millions of Americans for it, and also hated by essentially the entire political establishment for it.
As someone from the US, Sanders seems exactly like this to me, also.
Apologies if you already know this, but Sanders is not a Democrat. He caucuses with them and runs as a Democrat, but he's not a member of the Democratic Party. Depending on the article they may have been referring to that. (IMO this is one of many reasons the DNC ensured he couldn't get the nomination in 2016 and 2020.)
It's honestly too bad he is not in his 40s. At the risk of being overly presumptuous, I will speculate that he would be a good leader for the US and the "free world".
Who are the younger politicians he is mentoring to carry the torch? I wish my home country had someone like him to follow and support.
AOC. She entered Congress in 2018 and was inspired by Sanders and shares his philosophy. She is the next iteration of him for sure.
The rest of the squad too, to varying degrees. He's also been stumping for and both officially and unofficially advising many state and local level progressive hopefuls.
And that's not even counting how many he's simply inspired to run for office or otherwise help improve things with his "Not me, us" campaigns that almost succeeded in overturning the relentless propaganda machine of what's probably the richest political party in the world when not counting one party states.
I think that centrist Democrats were so on board with Netanyahu's genocide in exchange for AIPAC heavily funding opponents to progressives, and members of the squad in particular.
Nah, "centrist" (actually center right to right wing) politicians were already all in on zionism.
Their AIPAC owner donors going after the progressive rivals that expose how fundamentally dishonest and corrupt they are was just an extra bonus for them.
It'd be helpful for AOC to walk this back now that Harris is gone. And not repeat it if she wants to be president someday: https://electronicintifada.net/content/aoc-votes-back-israel-lobbys-bogus-anti-semitism-definition/50066
Doubt. But time will tell, I'd like to be surprised once again.
Yea she seems like she shares similar views. I hope to see more progressive politicians in my lifetime that actually inspire and force change. The future looks very bleak for progressivism in the US right now though.
The progressive caucus, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Progressive_Caucus
Because of the two party system each party is composed of a coalition of political caucuses. Progressive policy is popular among the US working class when not packaged as an ism or ist, so it has a strong position in the house and basically no support in the senate.
Fastest way to lose your typical American living pay-to-pay is to start talking about how privileged they are. I'm glad people seem to have finally caught on to that, took long enough.
No such thing.
Yeah, that's still a sore spot since it was one of the justifications given by centrists for how they were fine with him getting ratfucked in 2016.
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This is true for the parties as a whole. They are far too comfortable trading positions of power between themselves because they're all interested in keeping themselves in the ranks of the privileged. Neither party is willing to make any serious changes that would risk upsetting the balance for the greater good. They don't want change. Not actual meaningful change.
They have their elections and one party rules for a while before switching to the other, but the poor remain poor and the powerless remain powerless. Meanwhile they keep (or expand) their wealth and influence.
They may oppose each other in some ideologies, but make no mistake that they're on the same side when it comes to their own privilege.
Bernie is on the outside of this, which is why they will keep him down at all costs. He's a threat to their power structure.
Except for Ted Cruz. Everyone hates Ted Cruz.
Al Franken likes Ted Cruz more than most people, and he hates Ted Cruz.
Have you ever examined your own biases, or the biases of the American social media that you're exposed to?
I try to. I will admit, it can be difficult.
Anything specific you are referring to?
Yeah, the "only Bernie loves us" bullshit.
Here are ratings from the AFL-CIO, America's union federation, where you can find the current year and lifetime ratings of all US Senators.
Bernie has a 98%.
Twenty five Senate Democrats have higher pro-union ratings than him.
Damn, you think that's a dunk? At 98% lifetime with 100% current, you think you might be splitting hairs a bit to make that sound bad?
Did you read the part where 25 Democratic Senators have higher lifetime ratings than him?
Anyway, the contention here is the stupid notion that the only "good" US Senator is Bernie.
Ahh, that's a strawman. The person you are replying to never made that argument, you created that argument in your head because it was easier to defeat with this piece of information.
Sorry for disrupting your circlejerk!
Here, let me get into the mood:
The only thing we need to do is make Bernie president, then we'll never have to think about politics ever again!
Yeah... that's just another strawman, dude. Come on.
Everything's a strawman because you say so!
Fuck, Teddy, at this point you're just strutting around on the board cooing and knocking over pieces.
And because you demonstrably don't understand the definition
There's no contention except what you're creating it, no one's said that at all and I see you're trolling the rest of the thread. Get lost, troll.
Yeah notice how nowhere in that sentence is the phrase "only Bernie loves us"