I'm fairly sure he's got Putin in his contacts. He can just call him first and say, "Trust me bro, I got this."

(Not that I think Trump will nuke Ukraine, nor do I believe for a second that our military will allow that to happen.)

None of that changes whether you will be among the primary groups to pay the consequences, which is all I said.

Harris abandoned queers, brown people, and the entire progressive side of the party and needed to pay the consequences.

No, the queer community, brown people, disabled people, etc will now pay the consequences. gg

I saw that very claim elsewhere today. Something something "god didn't make him turn his head at just the right moment for him to lose the election."

Russia doesn't have to lift a finger. We elected the king of the racist bigots, and now for four years (and more) we're going to have to constantly push back against them, because they will will think they can do whatever they want.

Here's the thing man: It doesn't matter one bit if you and I think they were terrible people for not voting Harris despite all the very valid reasons you have listed why they should have. (All of which I agree with.)

Bottom line: Dems didn't sell themselves to those voters in a way that worked. We can be outraged that it didn't work, but it didn't work.

So, we can wring our hands about how awful our fellow man is for not seeing the clear moral imperative that we do (exactly like the Genocide-Joe folks have been doing for months), or we can recognize that Dems need to start doing things differently.

Personally I'm of the opinion that unless they truly are just there to put up a token show of resistance against R while serving the same goals (and I'm not yet cynical enough to really believe that), they need to stop with this "let's move to the right and try for some R votes" crap. It's not getting them any R votes, and it's clearly pissing off a lot of D. Edit: And it's ratcheting the entire country rightward.

In my 50+ years they have never really moved to the left for more than a brief teaser. Let's see them seriously push for some Bernie or AOC crafted policies, etc. Some actual progressive fire. Stop treating the left like political suicide, and stop treating Republicans like they can be reasoned with.

Although yes I agree with you, I also think the points the article raises are definitely a factor.

So, in other words, Trump is going to do exactly what he told us he would do.

No no, I was told repeatedly that Trump would be no worse than Harris. Clearly the Palestinians on the ground are wrong somehow.

Donald Trump is absolutely a shittier candidate than Kamala in every way imaginable.

And this approach to campaigning does. not. win. elections.

This is going to get pulled because this sub doesn't allow selfposts FYI. Not that I disagree with your premise.

I mean, yes, I'm sure there are people who do. There are people who think the earth is flat. They don't influence policy though.

Edit - my point is, no one is coming for your testes, and knowing someone who thinks it's a good idea is no better an example here than it would be for me to say I'm worried a flat earther is going to influence space exploration policy.