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[-] dgerard@awful.systems 17 points 6 days ago

actually you know what? with all the motte and baileying, you can take a month off. bye!

[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 6 days ago

Petition to replace "motte and bailey" per the Batman clause with "lying like a dipshit".

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 5 days ago

Isn't this a case of 'the good bits are not original and the original bits are not good'. According to wikipedia it is from 2005.

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 5 days ago

various forms of equivocation

[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I don't see what useful information the motte and bailey lingo actually conveys that equivocation and deception and bait-and-switch didn't. And I distrust any turn of phrase popularized in the LessWrong-o-sphere. If they like it, what bad mental habits does it appeal to?

The original coiner appears to be in with the brain-freezing crowd. He's written about the game theory of "braving the woke mob" for a Tory rag.

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