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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Lol, some leftists need to get over the fact that not everyone will agree with their pov, and that doesn’t mean those who disagree are “center” or “liberal”, whatever the fuck they think those labels mean. I am tired of what feels like emotional blackmail by hardliners who insist that their biased opinions are definitive progressivism, or that they are the arbiters of truth or justice. But continue being wrong, it’s just you losing credibility 🤷‍♀️ Truth and justice require a principled and unbiased approach towards morality, ethics and philosophy. I believe people can do better than zero-sum realpolitiks, I guess that’s just my naïve take.

/tiredposting

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's not what zero-sum means. Implied strawman. Insisting that your own position is the arbiter of unbiased truth and justice without demonstrating it (because obviously).

Lol k.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The worst thing to come out of social media discourse is ad hominem attacks (attacking a person) being perceived as attacking the argument itself. What an annoying take, no one is a god or angel. We have to do the work to find truth and justice.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

Wasn't an ad hominem either, and that certainly wasn't invented by social media.

What are you doing, fam? Is this satire itself? Please stop co-opting debate club culture, I paid for my right to use these words.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I disagree strongly with this. You simply have no leg to stand on here.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

LoL

Tell it to what words mean

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

Your argument is quite compelling, but I'm going to side with the person you're denigrating on this one. I'm sorry...

I'm just not very far-right... So I can't fully get into your mindset.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry it came across like that, I was super tired. I think other commenters are right that authoritarianism sucks, whether it’s left or right.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It also sucks when it's centrist. And guess what, your opinions are not less biased than anyone else, you are no more the arbiters of truth or justice than anyone else, you are no more "principled and unbiased" in you approach towards morality ethics and philosophy than anyone else. Don't be so goddamn arrogant.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You’re right that no one is an angel or god, no one has perfect knowledge and as such cannot hand out perfect justice. That’s what I am saying, essentially. As soon as people create authoritarian systems, of any kind, they become adherents to one singular way of thinking. That’s the problem.

Edit: stop making the thing into an ad hominem, I am talking about systems and processes.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

Yeah, and centrists in the current climate are all supporters of the authoritarian system that is capitalism, and essentially are all adherents to one singular way of thinking.