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Not to mention the amount of water required for operations like this
Or the amount of rainforest that was burned down to produce soy to feed to those.
It's just irresponsible to accept meat as a default food option.
Even if you don't go vegan completely no-one should have it more than once a week. Slowly cutting back now makes it way less expensive and also easier once the regulations happen - and it also shows the politicians that they have people behind them for regulations like that, too
hardly any soy goes to cattle at all
While technically true, more than ¾ of it goes to animal agriculture.
the owid article shows exactly what I said.
Abbott 85% of the global soy crop is pressed for oil for human use: livestock are mostly fed the industrial waste from that process
Brazil sells soy mostly to feed pigs and chickens in China
pigs and chickens are mostly fed soy cake: the industrial waste from making soybean oil
Going to copy my comment from above:
Soybean meal is not a byproduct of soybean production either. It's the main source of revenue
When we look at the most common extraction method for soybean oil (using hexane solvents), soybean meal is still the driver of demand
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0926669017305010
This is even more true of other methods like expelling which is still somewhat commonly used
https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0472/9/5/87
Even other extraction methods being explored in research as well don't have soybean oil as the main driver of demand
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jasreen-Sekhon/publication/330375817_Economic_Feasibility_of_Soybean_Oil_Production_by_Enzyme-Assisted_Aqueous_Extraction_Processing/links/5c49d531a6fdccd6b5c586b6/Economic-Feasibility-of-Soybean-Oil-Production-by-Enzyme-Assisted-Aqueous-Extraction-Processing.pdf
it's the bulk of the weight of the bean, but it isn't the reason it's grown
these aren't mutually exclusive
I can't believe how dishonestly you are trying to cherrypick those papers
https://ourworldindata.org/soy#more-than-three-quarters-of-global-soy-is-fed-to-animals
Soybean meal is not a byproduct of soybean production either. It's the main source of revenue
When we look at the most common extraction method for soybean oil (using hexane solvents), soybean meal is still the driver of demand
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0926669017305010
This is even more true of other methods like expelling which is still somewhat commonly used
https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0472/9/5/87
Even other extraction methods being explored in research as well don't have soybean oil as the main driver of demand
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jasreen-Sekhon/publication/330375817_Economic_Feasibility_of_Soybean_Oil_Production_by_Enzyme-Assisted_Aqueous_Extraction_Processing/links/5c49d531a6fdccd6b5c586b6/Economic-Feasibility-of-Soybean-Oil-Production-by-Enzyme-Assisted-Aqueous-Extraction-Processing.pdf
it is the bulk of the weight of the bean, but that isn't the reason it's grown
these aren't mutually exclusive
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By-product
soy oil punches way above it's weight in value.
I can't believe how dishonestly you are trying to cherrypick those papers
That's much more cherrypicked quote ignoring the "however" part about how soybean meal being the main driver of production
It's quite a thing to claim someone else is cherrypicing and ignore critical context. I don't see much point in continuing this discussion if that's how things are going to go
I pulled that straight out of the abstract