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Wait, what's wrong with signal?
well .. US based.
It is a us based non profit that doesn't store any information about you, your contacts, or any of your metadata, and encrypts all of your data in transit and at rest, using a strong open source encryption protocol. Signals privacy is so strong that when delivering a message, they cannot tell who the sender is. It is developed out in the open and has been independently audited like four times.
Also you don't need to purchase the app so boycotting it really only harms you since every other messaging app (that isnt self-hosted) is objectively worse in all of these measures, or has no network effect.
Don't punish orgs who are doing things right.
That is a good take. However I could instead support European company with european people which is not to be neglected
https://therecord.media/signal-no-longer-cooperating-with-ukraine. Do i need to say more?
Yeah, lots. Lots and lots.
In what way was Signal coöperating with Ukraine before? Signal only has access to when you created your account and the last time you connected to their servers; that's it.
In what way did Ukraine honestly expect to utilize this information in their war? I can't find any evidence that they've coöperated in the past, or that this would have been actually useful information. We have court cases proving they only store what they say they do:
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/signal-grand-jury-subpoena-data/
Also, Ukrainians have and continue to use Signal every day. This isn't like Starlink turning off internet for Ukraine but not Russia; its Ukraine asking for information that doesn't exist and then getting upset that they didn't get the non-existant data. It's a complete non-story designed to get you to use weak messaging apps, don't fall for it. Signal doesnt want to cooperate with any government and this is a good thing for privacy. If Signal could give information to Ukraine on Russians, it could also give Russia information on Ukrainians. But Signal can't give anyone information on anyone, and it needs to stay that way.
Slava Ukraini, Fuck Putin.