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The Biden admin has been working with Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Palestinian Authority, Qatar, HAMAS, and Israel to actually establish a real ceasefire agreement.
Biden's administration has been seeking a resolution that will end the blood shed. Trump's administration is suggesting and supporting the outright REMOVAL of Palestinians. It's not hard to see that.
You'll never win this argument on Lemmy. The population here "know" that "genocide Joe" was the key enabler of Israel's aggression and they can't see nuance
As I see it Biden couldn't disarm Israel as Israel disarmed would be obliterated, and that's political suicide in America
Of course a Democrat government was lending whatever diplomatic weight they could to establishing lasting peace in the middle east - that would be a popular win if they succeeded
I lost a tiktok watching friend over this
Na, they got something else going on.
I've already gotten a few to explicitly say that the people mascaraed on October 7^th^ "deserved it" or" "the ~~Jews~~ zionists did it". Not to mention the few people who said "peace with the ~~Jew~~ zionist is impossible" and then follow up by citing the PLO's One-State solution as the way to create "peace".
I'm not arguing with them to win, I hope my comments are more of a counter point for reasonable people reading these comments. Not sure how well it works, but oh well.
Yep, and without a reasonable administration Israel will face zero opposition to the actions they are taking and want to take.
That is why I don't care about 'winning' these arguments.
And also sometimes, I'm just pissed that these people view this conflict in black and white, at best.
The same Biden administration that helped kill 70k civilians. He got walked around the park by Netanyahu. Democrats & Republicans are both Israel first. The sooner you face reality the sooner Democrats will actually have to do something to earn votes. Look at where we're at now. Did you make excuses for them to get us here?