You cannot ignore the fact that Palestinians have tried every other option before resorting to violence. Complaining that their prison break season finale out of the concentration camp was not the cleanest operation ever is ridiculous.

Saying Hamas holds their own people hostage is truly misguided. You blame Hamas for what Israel does.

[–] adb@lemmy.ml -5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not ignoring any facts. You are ignoring the point I am trying to make.

I don't even blame Palestinians for resorting to terrorism.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you don't blame them for resorting to terrorism then it makes no sense for you to take issue with other people supporting them because of said terrorism. Whatever point you're trying to make you're failing.

[–] adb@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Sorry for the misunderstanding but I'm actually not the one taking issue with people supporting Hamas. I'm taking issue with one guy taking issue with another, the latter, while seemingly sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, expressing his belief that Hamas doesn't deserve support on account of their terrorist actions (amongst other things IIRC) and the former yelling that he can't say that because that's what Israeli propaganda says.

My point is one, that terrorism is a valid red-line for a stranger on the internet to express, although I don't take offense at people constructively debating that, and two, that reminding that Hamas has resorted to terror is a valid take, notwithstanding whatever Israeli propaganda uses to push their narrative.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Terrorism is not a valid red line, it is absolutely unavoidable in the pursuit of freedom from overwhelming colonial oppression, condemning resistance movements for doing the only things that have ever actually worked for driving occupiers out is moronic and ethically bankrupt

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

Nelson Mandela was a "terrorist".