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China should take down the great firewall, let millions of Chinese swarm the western internet and show them what real freedom of speech is like (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 2 weeks ago by AmerikaLosesWW3@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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[–] LeGrognardOfLove@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You say that informal censorship is always dictated by class relations ?

That's an interesting take.

I always saw echo chambers (what you call informal censorship) as inability to cope with a cognitive dissonance. It's a way to emotionally protect one self from others beliefs.

In more than a way, a semi closed environment like lemmygrad is that, I think.

I don't see it as censorship but more like a way to have constructive conversations about some subjects.

That's an interesting take none the less!

[–] darkernations@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 days ago

The perspectives espoused are relatively new for me; previously how free speech and "propaganda" was understood was influenced by Chomsky's Manufacuring Consent and Parenti's (better written) Inventing Reality. The latter is still a good book but the understanding of how this stuff works has evolved.

We have to sometimes take a step back in order to not overestimate an individual's agency/power over society's class relations (which is really damn hard for us Westerners - not matter the color - because of how much indvidualism is ingrained in our cultures); it is partly why class betrayal is a big thing. Learning dialectics (still learning, to be honest) and this article made a big impact:

https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/

Thanks for engaging and hope you have a good one.