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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by dezmd@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

Just got this right before midnight in my MS Admin app alerts. If you dont configure the policy, in September it defaults to opening web links in Edge regardless of OS default browser setting.

I woke up this morning to One Drive doing its usual thing being HOT GARBAGE, now I'm going to bed with Teams becoming HOT GARBAGE.

Full Excerpt:

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Web links from Microsoft Teams chats to open in Microsoft Edge; Teams chat will open side-by-side with link

MC669480

Plan for change

Published date: August 21, 2023

Affected services

Microsoft Teams

Tag

MAJOR UPDATEADMIN IMPACTNEW FEATUREUSER IMPACT

The Microsoft Teams desktop app for Windows will open web links from Teams chats in Microsoft Edge to enable a new web and chat side-by-side experience.

By opening web links in Edge, users will be able to see those links side-by-side with their Teams chats—web links will open as new browser tabs and the Teams chats will open next to them in the Edge sidebar. This new, single-view Teams experience in Edge is designed to minimize switching between windows and to help users stay in the flow of work while referencing web links.

This message is associated with Microsoft 365 Roadmap ID 126334.

This change to use Edge to open web links from Teams chats follows a similar, previously announced change in the Outlook for Windows app. Customers impacted by this change in Outlook were notified via MC541626, MC545904, or MC548092.

Admin controls are available as detailed below.

Read more about how we’re optimizing the experience between Microsoft 365 and Microsoft Edge:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2023/02/16/discover-new-ways-to-multitask-with-microsoft-365-and-edge/

What's New in Teams | Microsoft Inspire 2023 Notes:

This change does not affect a device’s default browser setting in Windows.

This only affects commercial users signed into Teams with Azure Active Directory (Azure AD) accounts.

The policy described in the following section configures which browser is used to open web links for both Teams (chat) and the Outlook for Windows app (email), or, if you did not receive an Outlook for Windows app Message center notification, this policy will only apply to Teams (chat).

When will this affect your organization:

Timing:

Microsoft Teams desktop app for Windows: This change will start rolling out late September.

Outlook for Windows: Roll out in progress. If this change affects your users, you will have received either MC541626, MC545904, or MC548092, and can refer to them for specific timing.

Note: Depending on your Outlook for Windows update channel, you may experience the change in Teams first. Action:

Use the Choose which browser opens web links policy to configure which browser will be used to open web links and to set whether users will be able to make changes to which browser opens web links in both the Teams desktop app for Windows (chat) and the Outlook for Windows app (email).

If you did not receive a message center notification for the Outlook for Windows app (email), then the setting only applies to Teams (chat).

If you did receive a message center notification for the Outlook for Windows app (email), then the setting applies to both Teams (chat) and Outlook for Windows app (email). You will not be able to manage each app individually using this policy. If you’ve previously configured this policy for the Outlook for Windows app and wish to maintain that configuration, no action is required.

Note: There are no Microsoft 365 subscription restrictions in using this policy to configure which browser opens web links in Teams.

Use of the policy to manage the change in the Outlook for Windows app depends on your Microsoft 365 subscription. If you received the Outlook for Windows app Message center notification, please refer to MC541626, MC545904, or MC548092 for details on whether configuring this policy will apply.

If you have not configured the policy, or wish to change it, find the details below. How this will affect your organization:

Links from Teams chats will open based on the browser configuration in the Choose which browser opens web links policy. If no configuration is selected using the Choose which browser opens web links policy, web links from Teams chats will open in Microsoft Edge.

Only links set to open via a web browser are affected. Links that are set to open in a client app or within Teams itself will continue to do so. User experiences will vary by policy configuration; please see the next section.

You can manage this experience at any time. What you need to do to prepare:

If you’ve previously configured this policy for the Outlook for Windows app and wish to maintain that configuration, no action is required.

Use the Choose which browser opens web links policy to configure which default browser will be used to open web links and to set whether users will be able to manage which browser opens web links in both Teams (chat) and the Outlook for Windows app (email). You will not be able to manage each app individually using this policy.

The Choose which browser opens web links policy is available using the Cloud Policy service for Microsoft 365 (formerly the Office Cloud Policy Service) or as part of the Administrative Templates for Microsoft 365 Apps.

Enabled: Configures which browser opens web links from the Teams desktop app for Windows (chat) and the Outlook for Windows app (email):

Microsoft Edge

Web links will open side-by-side with users’ chat or email in Edge.

Default browser

Users will not be able to change this from the respective apps’ settings menus.

Disabled/Unconfigured: Web links from the Teams desktop app for Windows (chat) and the Outlook for Windows app (email) will open in Microsoft Edge.

Web links will open side-by-side with users’ chat or email in Edge.

Users can manage the browser change: Via the in-product notifications explaining the side-by-side experience.

At any time via the Teams settings menu: Settings > Files and links > Link open preferences

Note: If you want to manage this change for your entire organization so that Teams only opens web links using the device’s system default browser, you will need to configure the policy to Enabled and select Default browser.

Additional Information

Read more about how we’re optimizing the experience between Microsoft 365 and Microsoft Edge with this feature in our blog: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2023/02/16/discover-new-ways-to-multitask-with-microsoft-365-and-edge/

We always value feedback and questions from our customers. Please feel free to submit either feedback or questions via Message Center.

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[-] spacedance@sh.itjust.works 325 points 1 year ago

A browser so good they have to force their captive audience to use it.

[-] pudcollar@lemmy.ml 121 points 1 year ago

It's like the antitrust lawsuit against Microsoft 22 years ago. They are still trying to push their browser.

[-] valkyre09@lemmy.world 111 points 1 year ago

When you visit the Chrome website in edge, a pop up in the top right tells you to use edge instead. Imagine going to sign up for a new ISP and your current one injecting a popup telling you they’re better. I have no idea how MS are getting away with it

[-] iminahurry@discuss.tchncs.de 62 points 1 year ago

Chrome does the same if you search for Firefox

[-] valkyre09@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Bloody scoundrels the lot of ‘em

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I know you can get chrome or fox by other means, but I always use Edge to download alternative browsers.

I enjoy seeing Microsoft grovel.

[-] RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, Google is better. Yup.

[-] MyFairJulia@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not the same as 22 years ago. What is the difference? Well, Microsoft tricks you into making Edge your default browser with every bigger update.

Windows 10: "oh uuuuh (sweats profusely) hi user-senpai. I made this cute browser, it's called edge and you would make me so happy if you used it."

Me: (looks for "No" button", sighs and then clicks "Later" button on the bottom left)

Windows 10: "oh noooo (sobs uncontrollably) can you at least import your bookmarks and stuff into edge"

Me: (clicks whatever button because that window too lacks a clear "No" button)

Windows 10: "Yaaaay! Thank you user-senpaaaaai! I promise that one day you'll have yes to Edge! I will make it the greatest browser ever!"

I'm in the process to migrate to Void Linux because of this and other issues.

EDIT: I got 3 downvotes so far and i want to say... i see you. I got the hint. The text lacks a Yandere vibe that Microsoft has going on 😄.

[-] root@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Jumped to Kubuntu around the time Win 10 came out and haven't looked back. Gaming on Linux has come quite far too :)

[-] MyFairJulia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I do really like KDE. It's the first thing i install on my machines after Void. I am looking for some inspiration to really rice out KDE.

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] 0nXYZ@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Probably that Microsoft Windows in its current form makes you want to crawl into a void.

[-] Ew0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Remind me - I have a nice ZFS Encrypted Void install guide. In hospital at the moment, I'll try dig it up.

[-] andallthat@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

If you didn't like it, you shouldn't have let your laptop walk around dressed so provocatively

[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

The thing is, it's actually decent. I don't know why they have to keep doing this. I used Edge as the main browser on my Surface Go to get a bit more battery life, and it's fine as my second browser; feels like someone is desperately trying to meet their KPIs to keep on pulling shit like this. Parts of the browser are getting worse too, that sidebar is a complete mess at default.

[-] Tatters@feddit.uk 30 points 1 year ago

You are probably right, but the more they keeping pushing me to use Edge, the more I don’t want to use it. My experience of it is mostly negative, as a hindrance that gets in my way with its constant nagging, and having to disable it.

[-] ours@lemmy.film 31 points 1 year ago

Personally, I don't care how good it is, I refuse to use a Chromium-based browser and insist on supporting its only serious competitor: Firefox.

[-] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

This is pretty much me. I've never spent any significant amount of time with edge. I don't really see the point in trying multiple chromium-based browsers.

[-] ours@lemmy.film 3 points 1 year ago

The average person understandably doesn't care about which rendering engine is being used behind the scene. They see the branding, the UI, and the features.

Hense Chromium's near total dominance outside of the Mac world.

[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I know that feeling, I don't like that too.

[-] Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

That's one of my main problems with Microsoft at this point. They can make improvements to the underlying technologies (WSL, better security sandboxing, FDE by default on supported hardware, etc) and develop actually decent software (Edge) but then they keep doing things to piss off the users like forced online account logins, the mess they made of the default app selection going from 10 to 11, pre-installed junk, and now this. They just need to get out of their own way and focus on making decent products: ones people want to use, instead of ones they're coerced to use.

[-] darreninthenet@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

Edge was my main browser until about six months ago, then they pushed that obnoxious UI change that added a load of buttons to my toolbar that I can't move or disable, and that irritating sidebar that jumps up whenever it can even when the button is disabled, and I went back to Firefox again.

[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

That's part of the annoyance I was mentioning; but you can turn it off. I just wish it wasn't so obnoxious by default.

[-] Skies5394@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

On the partner portal tech side of things they force a UI change roughly every 6 months, then have a forced “See what’s new!!” Pop up that WONT GO AWAY every time you log in no matter how many times you click through its bubble chase game across the screen so you can just get to fucking work.

Then for some reason the partner portal oauth or whatever cookies expire wayyyy before the office.com user cookies. So you’ll go to access the portal and be told it’s expired, only to have to close the window and click the partner button again. Not even having to actually reauthenticate.

Why do some preview handlers in file explorer lock the file? Why user logon not more verbose? Or able to be verbose on selected problem machines? Why does Windows driver installer uninstall AMD adrenaline sometimes when it feels like turning itself back on? In place upgrades are a recovery option if the machine is still working, but why not if the machine isn’t booting and as a full recovery option with user and application data intact and only reinstalling OS files like Linux and MacOS? Why are all the built-in troubleshooters so fucking useless, especially with SaRA exists? Printer server on Windows server… WTF? Windows app troubleshooting, especially built in apps, the repair options in settings don’t work 90% of the time. You want people to use your storefront? Make it make sense! Quit. Changing. The. Fucking. Names. Of. Shit. You. Fucks. AzureAD was fine. Entra? Who fucking cares. Does some guy get paid to come up with names there? You want me to come smear shit on the walls and call it art? I’m sure I can convince some egghead of that if this is how you work.

I better stop before I have an aneurysm. I hate Microsoft.

[-] SimonSaysStuff@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If you think that them forcing a browser on you, or forced telemetry, or web-based logons are bad just wait until they enforce desktop in the cloud and remove any option to install Windows locally. Then you'll truly have no control over what you do, what you install, you'll be completely monitored, permenantly. There's a reason workers (with some degree of integrity) are leaving MS as it's crap like this thats on their roadmap.

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

it's actually decent

it's getting worse

Welp. I guess I'll continue avoiding it.

[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

That's not exactly what I said, don't put words into my mouth.

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Lol I literally quoted you.

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

It used to be good, before it became the default platform for their AIbing monstrosity... Now it's just arse. Why would I want web pages read to me??

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

🙋 I want web pages read to me. Especially at night when I'm trying to fall asleep.

But not at the expense of using Edge.

[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Albing? But that sidebar really is a monstrosity at default, gotta disable like half of the items there to make it useful, and hide it on launch so it's not obnoxious.

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I was going to write bAIing but it made no sense. BingAI is probably a lot more coherent, in hindsight

[-] keeb420@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

theres some sites that dont work with how i have my browser setup in chrome, at least i think thats what is the problem, but they work fine in edge. im not gonna use it for my main browser, microsoft already gets too much data from us all, but ill use it when chrome messes up.

[-] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

I wish the new popular browser wasn't Mac only

It's way better than Chrome for a Chromium browser.

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